Coleman: Everton’s 60k Legend, Ireland Stories With Roy & What's Next? | Stick to Football EP 148
Join Gary Neville, Roy Keane, Ian Wright, Jamie Carragher and Jill Scott on Stick to Football, brought to you by Disney+, as they’re joined by Everton legend Seamus Coleman. Seamus reflects on his remarkable journey from a £60,000 signing to becoming Everton captain and a club legend, including the responsibility he carried through some of the toughest years at Goodison Park. He also discusses what comes next after leaving Everton, Jack Grealish’s influence at the club and Iliman Ndiaye’s move to Manchester City, before looking back on his career with the Republic of Ireland and sharing stories from working alongside Roy. Chad Powers Season 2, a Hulu Original series, streaming exclusively on Disney+. © 2026 Disney and its related entities. 18+. Subscription required. This episode is sponsored by Super 6. Visit super6.skysports.com for your chance to win. Terms and conditions apply: https://super6.skysports.com/terms 00:00 - Intro 08:10 - Life After Everton 20:22 - Using Carra as Motivation 37:05 - Moyes’ Returns 50:25 - Ireland Euros Memories 53:02 - Everton Player Praise 58:22 - Playing Against Klopp & Pep 01:09:39 - What’s Next? SUBSCRIBE TO THE CHANNEL HERE https://www.youtube.com/c/theoverlap STICK TO UNITED WITH WAYNE ROONEY ON THE UNITED STAND https://www.youtube.com/@UnitedStand/videos JOIN THE OVERLAP WHATSAPP CHANNEL HERE https://whatsapp.com/channel/0029VbC3WQvAYlUCoCqZgA45 SUBSCRIBE TO THE OVERLAP BREAKDOWN CHANNEL HERE https://www.youtube.com/@TheOverlapBreakdown SUBSCRIBE TO THE OVERLAP NEWSLETTER https://substack.com/@theoverlapnewsletter SUBSCRIBE TO IT WAS WHAT IT WAS PATREON Join here ➡️ www.patreon.com/itwas SUBSCRIBE TO STICK TO RUGBY HERE https://www.youtube.com/@TheOverlapRugby SUBSCRIBE TO THE STICK TO CRICKET CHANNEL HERE https://www.youtube.com/@TheOverlapCricket?subconfirmation=1 FOLLOW STICK TO CRICKET ON SOCIAL 👇🏏 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/sticktocricket/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61577370443364 TikTok…
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Is he Is he the best 60 grand signing ever? >> Who? >> Probably the only 60 grand signing in it ever. >> That's his song, wasn't he? Everton. 60 grand. Sheamus Coleman. >> Yeah. 60 from Everton. >> Shamrock. No, Siggo. >> Siggo. >> Siggo. Siggo Rovers, I think. >> You know what? Just check that. I'm sure Paul Cook was his manager. >> Who was the Who's the most expensive right back this summer that's been sold? Who's the last couple of years? Who who's paid who's paid massive money for right back or or left back? >> Cooker was 65 million, wasn't it? Or something like that was a big money one. >> Remember Remember City spent 100 million in one transfer window on fullback. >> Fullbacks. Yeah. But who's the most expensive fullback? >> How much did Hakeime cost? PSG maybe. [snorts] >> 2007 to 2012. Paul Cook was at Siggo. So >> Oh, so he wasn't there with him. >> When did he sign for Everton Sheamus? Oh god. Was that about 2010? Would it be? >> If he was, then he was. I'm not. >> Yeah, we just check. I'm sure he I'm sure Paul Cook was his manager. >> Uh he he would have been. >> Yeah, >> because he he transferred in 2009. >> Okay. >> Oh, 2009 was it? Yeah. Sorry. Sh. Bring it up. Shame. Had a few go at me when he was a player when I was at Ireland. >> Hey, Shane. >> Yes. Shameless. >> Bring it in. >> Good to see you. Good to see you, please. >> Yes, Sheamus. Nice to see you, man. This is This is not a studio that respects right backs, unfortunately. [laughter] >> Sheamus, you're the only person I've ever seen that Roy Ke name was the hedgehog cuz he [laughter] hedgehog. >> He can't hug you. >> I'm using his own liner cuz he said that he said that to [laughter] you. >> That's what you do. People take my lines all the time. No, we got on our eight ride, didn't we? >> Not sure. >> Yeah, we did. Yeah, we did. You came at me a few times. >> No, no, we had two, I think. >> Was it two? Yeah. >> What? Two falling out. >> Come at me. What did I slag? No, I said something. Whatever. But also in the game, but not stopping crosses. >> Oh, yeah. >> Where was it? >> Yeah, that was Serby away, >> right? The angle where the guy was crossing it and you were worried about somebody else. I went No, that's you came back at me with some stuff and >> Yeah. Yeah. Did you Was it was it was it heated or was >> Oh, he obviously he apologized the next day. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> Oh, tell us the story, Sheamus. I've got I had a similar one at commentary. >> Do you remember? >> No, I think it was about where where the the the argument in Serbia, you're saying or the other one? >> Yeah, the other [laughter] said no, the Serbia one was Yeah. >> where the guy was crossing it from. >> They kept switching out, didn't they? Can't remember the left back. And I wasn't getting out >> tight enough >> because there was someone coming on the underlap as well. >> And you're having a go at me for not getting out tight enough. But I had to go back saying if I go out tight, he's just slipping it down the side in the underlap. >> Yeah. >> So anyway, we had it in the dressing room at halftime, didn't we? And it was fine. >> Yeah. >> So we went out second half. You might remember this bit. I've gone out like you said. Bang. Slipped it down the side. Johnny Walters give away a pen and THEN THEY SCORE. [laughter] >> [laughter] >> I DON'T ACTUALLY BELIEVE WHAT YOU SAID. >> But um [clears throat] >> what was the score in the game? Did we >> We >> We got a result, didn't we? >> I think we got 22 in the end. >> But we pass. [laughter] >> What does had it mean, Sheamus after? What do you mean just having an argument? >> No. No. We >> Yeah. No, it was a bit heated. No, but I think my argue whatever the point you're trying to make is I think you were worried about a player. I thought no, he's not the danger. Yeah, you did. >> It was somebody else was the problem. That's what I was trying to make to you. >> Yeah. >> And uh Yeah. No, you had to go back. That's fine. >> But we always >> Yeah. But no, the funny thing obviously that's going to happen in the dress room, but you move on quickly. I think the other one, what was the other one about? But did I slag Everton players out or something [laughter] about being injured? Remember there was always >> Yeah. So yeah, that was Martinez was the manager. >> Martinez was the manager. Yeah. >> I'll pour your teeth first. [laughter] Um yeah, no that was um I think I'd missed I'd missed a couple Everton games and then I missed the Ireland g Ireland game on the Tuesday but I'd missed a couple Everton games before it. I missed Ireland game on the on the Tuesday but then I played >> on the Saturday but I'd missed like two weeks for Everton before that. played on the Saturday. Um, and then we were in the next month and I think maybe you might have said it's like a miracle when >> Everton players turn up, you know, but that was against Martinez cuz he was always saying Everton play they're always injured. They're always that. So, and you came, you kept looking for me, didn't you? >> I did. [laughter] Foolishly. >> Yeah, foolishly. Because I came cuz on the bus maybe on the way there, you're on your phone or whatever and seen it miracle when the when the Everton players turn up. So I was like fuming. I was like I've missed three ever games. I would never miss a game. Whatever. But like you said, you were coming for Martinez at the time. Um and I I came for Roy. I think you were setting up cones maybe. And I came over. >> Probably probably setting up cones. That's all I >> No. And I came over to to Roy and uh I've seen this whatever. Not happy. Blah blah. >> I think you did say I wasn't having a go at you. Whatever. That was fine. It was it was done. Well, I thought it was done. We had a meeting that evening, just team meeting. And then Roy came to me after, can I see after the meeting? [laughter] >> Oh my god. His eyes were like this small. I was like, "Oh my god." So we you pulled me out, didn't you, to the side and we had a discussion. >> Did we? Yeah. >> We shook hands and and that was it. But I I I thought I thought that was it done. And then I seen it when he called me at the end of the meeting. >> No, but what I think I said you don't be pulling me on the training. Was it something like me? Yeah. >> Yeah. You said don't pull you don't pull me on the training pitch. But um I mean >> was nothing >> me. Yeah. I mean them things now like I find >> people would probably not speak to you for two or three days after it but like >> with Roy. >> He doesn't like right back. Shameless to be fair. He's just right back. >> Did that one hurt you though because you are such an honest player who would fight for everything to play. >> Yeah. I think I think that's I think that's maybe what why I I thought right I'm I'm upset about that or whatever. But I mean ultimately that's that's that's >> that's the way you've seen it and and yeah >> but it's good though isn't it training pitch but what you're talking about there someone's question you feel like someone's questioning your >> it's not even like your ability it's like you're think I'd never miss a game forever and someone questioned that >> I think you're right if someone said that about me you can say I know you're talking about the training pitch but the thing that that's riled you up I think that probably doesn't rile enough players up but every time we hit again with Ireland and Martinez obviously was the manager. He kept saying, "Oh, every shame is struggling." Darren, all the Everton players, everyone was struggling. So every time I say the Everton players are turn up at the hotel, I be like, they be on crutches or in a wheelchair. >> That's [laughter] the image he was given. >> So that was I was having to dig it more at probably Everton >> and their medical team than the lads. >> This episode of Stick to Football is brought to you by [music] Disney Plus. Jimmy Carer called you a called called us a disgrace. Using it in any way to like try and get us together again. I was thinking I don't think this is bothering people as much as it's bothering me. It was keeping me awake. Jenny, I'd be on my phone myself. I see [music] things. So, I know they're seeing the same things about themselves, go find some of the worst things that have been said about me. And then he just looks straight at me and he went, "Clean, any issues?" And I thought, "Ah, he's asked me." So, we've been talking [music] and think maybe things are going on a bit longer or whatever than they should have. Really? [laughter] >> Anyone else? >> Not one. >> Not Not one. >> Not one person. >> I do think Everton [music] would be in the championship without without him. I think he he was that important to us. Probably one of the best nights of his life. >> Yeah. Amazing. >> Oh, yeah. It was It was mine. It was incredible. Any clubs at all coming? >> I've had conversations, [music] but would you go to League One and League Two? I mean, for a friend. [laughter] Sheamus, what you up to? You [music] obviously finished at Everton at the end of last season. What are you doing right now? >> Um, not a lot really. I was home in Ireland for about 6 weeks there. So, which was nice the kids cuz usually when when you go back for preseason, the kids are just finishing up for their school holidays and stuff. So, >> we've had like a nice period back in Ireland, which is really nice. and I've been keeping fit and and and training and and not stressing too much about what's next. I had I probably was done 100% at the end of the season until maybe I spoke with Ireland manager and I done quite well in in the Ireland games over the last year and we got close to the World Cup we got knocked out. Um but he mentioned about me staying on um to be part of it for the Euros in a couple years now. I know that's a a long way away. So that kind of planted a seed in in my mind maybe maybe I could carry on and see what it's like. But I mean I I spoke with the club and I I met the manager and stuff and I went down there and I just felt a bit soon after leaving everything and it it all happened too soon. I didn't want to keep them hanging on because I didn't want to mess them around, you know, they're trying to get their their players in. So just went back to Ireland. >> Which club was that? >> Uh it was Sheffield United. Sheffield United and the manager was the manager was great and um I went down and met him. He he was really really good like a little bit old school and um uh the club was a good setup as well but I didn't want to keep them hanging on and uh decided just wasn't right and then just went home switched off. I'm not kind of stressing either way about it Gary to be honest. I'm I'm quite laidback about it. I had a had a good run and it was more so Thanks Roy. It was more so just the um just the Ireland stuff really that that maybe has put a bit of doubt in my mind. What what what was it what was the gut feeling bit of Sheffield United that you didn't quite sit right you know what was the >> I think I think probably just because I've been somewhere for so long and it just came very quick and it was a just a a big decision to make quite quickly after I think I finished with Ireland and then they were on the phone like a couple of couple of days later and it just >> I didn't want it like you said to me like um you don't want to rush these decisions so it just didn't didn't feel right >> but there'll come a point soon she won't you go Yeah. >> I can't keep waiting. I've not played for two or three months now that you say knocking on the head. You going to give what? Give it another three, four, five weeks type of scenario. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm I'm I'm training. I'm taking over. I'm training myself. It's not the not the same. I'm I'm trying to stay as fit as I can. But yeah, I mean, now the window closes, things might open up a little bit, but um yeah, I mean, I'll be making a decision very very soon. And again, if it wasn't for the Ireland stuff, my decision would have been would have been made. >> Have you been able to train with a team or or not? because it must be hard I think doing individual stuff as you say it's not like >> it's not the same. >> No, it's not the same. No, it's not the same. No, I've not been training with a team. I would find it strange going into a team now. I was back home for the six weeks. I' done a little bit of of Gaelic football with the lads back home and trained with the soccer team back home. But um just to stay fit, keep your movements going, but in terms of training with the team, I've not. >> James, I want to ask you about sort of going back to the start. So, it was it was Siggo, wasn't it? And you're almost the most famous 60 grand sign is that that's your chance. Was was Paul Cookie manager? >> Yeah, he was. He was [clears throat] >> I play with Cookie at Burnley. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, he was. And he was he was he was brilliant for me, Jamie. Um, I went over I think I was 18 when I signed for Siggo overs first and uh my first manager there um was Rob McDonald and he um he didn't he he he called me into his office and said I'd signed for someone before but then he came in and uh he called me in and he was like listen we're going to we're going to let you go on loan if you didn't have a year on your contract then um you wouldn't be here type thing. I remember getting in the car. Uh he called the we have the winter off over there. Season starts in February. So it was January time. My dad drove me over and I went into the office at Siggo and and he said, "Um listen, you're lucky if a year left." Like I said, um we would let you go otherwise. And I got back in the car to my dad and he was like, "How did that meeting go?" I was like, "Oh, all good. You know, we're our date starting in two weeks time." And I'd said nothing to him or said said nothing, but I thought like, "Oh my god, like I'm I'm done here already." like and then thankfully for me and luckily for me about a week later he just I don't know did he get the players he wanted in or not he left a week later and then cookie came in >> and he he was he was one of the most influential managers for me cuz he he probably made me believe myself from very early and he was tough on you as well he was really tough on you scouse and he was tough and >> if you weren't doing things right he'd let you know but he also made >> his brother [laughter] >> used to look after my house >> he plays good football as well don't Yeah, I we we played Chesterfield. I think it was last week and they do play. >> You know what I mean? They do play. >> Yeah. Know and he did even with us and um I was fit as a fiddle like and he just wanted me up and down for the for the 90 minutes. But he just made you feel 10 foot tall like he made you feel like um like you were going to be a footballer and he gave me a right chance and I actually went on trial to Burnley um uh like a year into cookie time and like he put me in with his mom and dad and picked me up at the airport and stuff. So he was really really important for me. Yeah. What what's what just going back to the club, what club would it be that you think I'm not going to name a club, but type of club would it be or team that you think you would bring you out of sort of not retirement, but take you away from what you're doing now, which is just waiting. What What would it be? What's the Is it a Premier League club or does it have to be a Champions Club? Would you go to league? What >> is it something stopping you? What What would it be? >> Um I don't I don't think anything stopped me. I do think um listen at my age even the last two or three years at Everton have not played consistently or regularly due to you know some injuries and then just not getting picked as well. Um but I also I always felt like I probably wasn't hanging around there like a bad smell cuz I could influence you know dressing rooms and players and and things like that. And I know you'd probably be big on wanting you should be playing or influencing, but like I I felt that Everton was around long enough that it could have an impact in the dressing room. Um, so even even something like that going forward, I know I can I can help players. I know I can help improve players. I know I can talk to players and also, you know, I played for Ireland for the last year, done quite well. So I know if my body's good, I'm not going to play 30, 40 games somewhere, but I know I could come in and uh and help a team. >> It's interesting what what you're saying there. I was I I think for different positions I I think you think I I would think differently. I think for the defender and I'm not trying to obviously influence your decision in any way, but when I was coming to the end, I wanted to finish at Liverpool, but at 35 I thought cuz I I think as a defender you can cost your team the game and that feeling and we've been there as defenders, you know, you sat on that coach and you've made the mistake and it's like and when you get into that age and >> I think sometimes with a striker you come off the bench and you can get the winner. Yeah, you know what I mean? I have played another year probably. And if I was a different game, >> you might not cost your team the game. You just haven't played well. I just think it was all in my head. >> Great at all. Did you think that was the right decision? >> No, but I just think if you're a winger, you can come off the bench. You can just not have a good game and you're not going to cost your team. I that that was my feeling. I didn't know obviously what you think, but that was certainly >> Yeah. I I've been in a position where again where when I was up at Celtic and I was 34 35 still had a year left in my contract but physically I was struggling >> but when I retired well you're on about that big decision what you going to do but like there's loads of options then for about the modern players the platforms of you want to go into coaching but when I retired and I left I was I got closure on my career within 20 seconds so this big fear thing going what what you going to do you go there's lot's going to happen I was I was relieved I was relieved yeah I was relieved the minute I retired tired. I felt relief because to be fair, I wasn't playing well in the last few months. But what you did in the last two or three is by staying at Everton, maybe playing less games is what I definitely did and I would have done if I was you. Cuz I think the idea of going playing somewhere else and I I knew that if I wasn't playing at United, I had to retire. And I just wonder with that great career you've had with Everton whether such a massive club whether does any other club in the Championship. Does it does it feel like you want that on your CV or is it just a case of no I was an Everton player. I know you play for Blackpool and Siggo and stuff, but that will always be part of your life. But you're an Everton player and that just having that single Premier League club on your CV just >> the Irish thing though. Is that >> the Irish Euros in two years thing? Well, Ireland time, isn't it? It's a long time. Tell me about it. I wouldn't even be thinking two years ahead. But regarding that, Gary, it's interesting because like I don't like I was so fortunate and so lucky to and I'm sure everyone sits here John Mc again last week, you know, they all say so lucky and fortunate the way my career went. Yeah. bad times along the way, but Jesus, the 16-year-old me couldn't turn down the opportunity to play for a championship club, you know, or I don't have the ego in terms of like, oh, Everton will always be my club. I absolutely idolize it. But in terms of like the the stature of yet one club man, Premier, I don't really have that. But yeah, Jimmy, like you said as well, like there's nothing worse than especially as a fullback if if you're not at it like exposed, you know. But um >> Bun [laughter]