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Man City charges: guests argue for revoking the owners' licence rather than a one-off points deduction and relegation
The Green Room on The Overlap focuses on the Manchester City charges. The guests argue City have engaged in long-term financial doping, and that fines or ordinary points deductions are not enough; the effective punishment would be revoking the owners' licence or imposing sustained annual points deductions. The rest of the episode includes a next-guest tease and light chat, but the main conclusion is that City's owners should not continue.
- Manchester City are cheats and their medals should be thrown in the bin — The clip gives no detailed reasoning; it is a direct and strong characterisation
- Manchester City's conduct is financial doping on an industrial scale — The phrase "industrial scale" is used to stress the size of the alleged financial wrongdoing
- The only punishment worth looking at is revoking Manchester City's directors' and owners' licence — They say the owners no longer meet the requirements for a football owner in this country and have broken all the rules; only this punishment truly damages City
- City have financially doped the Premier League for the last 15 years, and everything they have won and the players they used came from money they should not have had — They argue City gained a competitive advantage through money they were not entitled to, so their success and squad are not legitimate
- The real question for football is whether City's owners keep their licence; fines or points deductions are secondary — They believe other sanctions would not frighten City as much as losing the licence
- City's owners cannot carry on, and the punishment should be sustained annual points deductions, such as 25 points a year, not a one-off 100-point deduction and relegation — A one-off relegation would let them come back after one season; annual deductions would make it almost impossible for them to get back into the Champions League
- If they were offered relegation to a lower division, City would snap your hand off — They judge that City would keep enough resources to come straight back, so relegation alone would not hurt them permanently
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[music] [music] [music] I wish we were both to the city. >> We only had one topic and that is the Man City charges. >> This is our moment, isn't it? >> Yeah. [snorts] >> There's been a wrong that needs to be writed. Injustice. Yeah, >> true. Preach it. >> We'll do our small part, won't we? In changing the the narrative around football today. >> Are you looking forward to Super [laughter] Sick? >> I can't wait. >> Yeah, Super Six is back, baby. [laughter] [clears throat] >> I'm looking forward to today. No, he messaged us cuz he was like, "Is this going to be a bit like difficult or whatever?" And I was like, "Well, you've got uh two extra people on." I was like, "I don't mind if I just sit this out." Yeah, [laughter] but I was like, "No, I think you should come on." >> Yeah, >> this is the big Jeopardy for the green room. Will Gary like this? >> I've uh changed it up this season today. And yeah, I don't know. One page or for Gary to refer to all the key questions, all the key bits, but is it too tricky to read? Find out on the green room. >> Are you okay? >> Yeah. All good, >> good, good. >> We assassinate Manchester City. >> Oh, no. Bloody hell. I did see you're part you're part of a you're part of a city group. >> Oh yes. [laughter] >> I did see it again. >> How many trophies did you win at city that comes up the bottom of the sky just can't pre >> I don't even know that. >> I'm off to London after this. >> Any reason? >> We got a special guest. Can I give you a few clues? >> Yeah, give yourself which gives the viewer. I'm trying to not go for my first clue which is just a giveaway. Um, it's a famous Evertonian. There's one clue. He's used Good Park as a film set. There's another clue. And then the clue that I was going to go with at the start was Adrian. [laughter] I'm just going to put the golf balls on the tea. [laughter] >> So Royce called them cheats and he said the medals should be thrown in the bin. >> Yeah. >> Ian has said it's basically financial doping on an industrial scale. >> Yeah. >> There's only one punishment that everybody should be looking at and that is removing them as removing their license as owners. That's the only punishment that damages Manchester City. Honestly, we do a very strict directors and owners test. um that the regulator has actually even stiffened. They do not meet the they do not meet the requirements of a football owner in this country anymore. They have broken all the rules. Cara did say it on the group last week. The owner should be expelled is the only punishment I think that basically this crime fits. >> I was watching Rambo last night because I haven't actually watched it. Obviously, I've seen the first couple of Rockies. How many Rockies is there? Five. >> Six. >> Oh, is there six? I've only seen two. >> You only seen two? >> Yeah. >> Oh, you need to watch some tonight then or tomorrow morning. They're so But Rocky four Rocky four is the one. It's like the big Russian and it's like if he dies, he [clears throat] dies. >> Okay. >> And he comes in. It's so good. [laughter] >> You just I've watched the first Ramble. >> Yeah. I love him in that. He's so He's just so cool, isn't he? >> Oh, he is. Yeah. We're a league now that we think we're not. >> We think we're we've got integrity. We think we've got honesty. We think we've got everything in this country. We believe that's our values. They have literally financially doped the whole last 15 years of the Premier League. Everything that they have won is through basically money that they should not have had. They've had players on the pitch they should never have had on the pitch. 900 million >> ultimately should the owners of Manchester City keep their directors and their owner's license that is the only question for football because the rest of the punishments they'll get over any fine any points deduction anything else will be something if I was Manchester City the thing that I would be most terrified of would be having the directors and owner's license revoked >> Rambo in your movie set >> is it like top 10 top five >> talk to me Johnny talk to me >> [snorts] >> I love that. I love that. >> I'll give you a war. You won't believe. [laughter] >> No, I love this. This is what we should be doing moving forward. >> No, I like everything on one page rather than cards. It's probably better for me cuz you see me [ __ ] [laughter] >> I like [ __ ] Bruce for >> You know what I always think about Jack Wilshshire? He's like one of them could have been. What could have been? cuz he was so good, wasn't he? I thought he was like the second coming of Fabricas. He had it all at the start for um Arsenal and it's a shame where it went but seems to be doing well as a manager. >> How many retreats you got now? >> Oh, [ __ ] knows. >> Still coming up for >> You're brilliant at reporting stories. I will at the end ask you in your opinion, what do you think will happen? >> I'm letting you know that. So, I'm warning you that you will be asked your opinion on what you think a fair punishment is. >> Okay. >> What's your opinion, Gary? >> All to be revealed. >> No, the only thing that will damage them is having their license taken off them. >> We've relegated a couple of divisions. How can they stay all the way? >> They won't. They'll snap your hand off your offer them like that. >> They'll snap your hand off. >> Oh, the players do in League One or League Two. >> They'll probably stay with them in Juventus did, didn't they? But you think in a week they can't afford to >> forget the money side of they'll keep enough they can get them back up. >> They've got to pay them over a number of years. It can't be just a one-off life. We relegate them. They come back in a year and they back thing that damages them permanently if it's taking that long. >> Yeah. No, I I think they they can't carry on as as owners. But this thing of like they've cheated for what is it 8 years they say or nine years now over a four or five year period I think they've got to be hurt. So even if it's like 25 points a year or whatever, not like a oneoff 100 points and that's it. Just get relegated and then just come 90 they'll be like great one season. >> Exactly. One season. So you do it. So you almost make it impossible for them to ever sort of like >> get Champions League football anyway. Who's the best streets won't forget player of all time? >> Like someone who doesn't get recognition. Do you mean? >> Yeah. >> Well, that was when Sydney dec. If you say >> just personality, maybe he is too good for that category, but he can be in both. >> I've got that on my uh Tops fanatics card. This card is called Streets Won't Forget. >> Yeah, I've got so many cards. I'm a bit sad. [laughter] >> Here's the case of defense. [laughter] >> I need to be rocky today. >> [music] >> Hi, mate. You okay? You all right? I'm all good, mate. All good. Good. How's How's it going? >> Good. >> Yeah. [ __ ] [laughter] [ __ ] bottom of the league. [music] This has been a Global and the Overlap production. >> [music] [music] [music] >> Yeah.