"NO PROBLEM WITH IT!" Andy Goldstein DEFENDS Lisandro Martinez's comments on Man United's board!

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Andy Goldstein defends Lisandro Martinez's comments on Man United's board

The show reacts to Man United's defeat at Atletico Madrid and Lisandro Martinez's post-match call for more investment. The panel debates whether his comments were self-serving or helpful in shifting blame from Michael Carrick to the board, with callers split and further debate over Carrick and the owners.

Andy Goldstein & Darren Bent give their reaction to Manchester United's 2-0 loss to Atletico Madrid in the Champions League & weigh-in on Lisandro Martinez's post match comments on the board and recruitment at the club. Subscribe: https://youtube.com/c/talkSPORT 🏆 Ready to win? Check out the latest prizes at talkSPORTwin.com Enjoyed this YouTube video? 😍 🖥️ talkSPORT's Website: https://talksport.com/ 📲 talkSPORT's Twitter: https://twitter.com/talkSPORT 📷 talkSPORT's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/talksport/?hl=en 👤 talkSPORT's Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/talkSPORT/ 📱 talkSPORT's Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@talksport ? 🔴 Download the talkSPORT app HERE! - https://talksport.com/apps/ 🔎 Want to see if you feature on our YouTube channel? Check out our Best talkSPORT callers playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFVMnSsi04LGLa9pS9xDvme-Gjmlu2 talkSPORT PremierLeague

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Oh, excuse me everyone, but we have to start with Man United. Their sorry start to the season continued this time at Atletico Madrid last night, but as Lissandro Martinez made things even worse FINDS DAVID. GREAT SAVE. LUCK TUCKS IN THE REBOUND. GAME, SET, MATCH. ATLETICO MADRID. It's Atletico Madrid to Manchester United nil. >> The answer is yes. he will be under a little bit of pressure. >> You make a a really good point about Martinez, right? And as a manager, right, you're going to sit there and go, "Are you having a luck after you cost me three points against Tottenham and he's got the trick to come out and start battering the owners?" >> Full time in the Metropolitano Atletico Madrid 2 10man Manchester United nil. >> Yes, with just two wins from [music] nine games in all competition from Man United so far this season. Their 10 men were beaten 2-0 Atletico Madrid last night. But of course, the big story, I'm sure you've seen it. If not, have a listen, came after the game. United defender Sandro Martinez spoke to our friends at Amazon Prime. He didn't hold back. He did a fantastic season last season. And now we we expect more from from the top from up, you know, to bring more more player to compete because many many teams bring many players as well. And today also Atéico, they have an amazing team. But what you're saying is you expected more investment in the squad in the summer. >> Yeah, 100%. Our aspect from our technical director uh I would have to be honest. You know, >> often in this situation, it's the manager who is the one that is is removed. You can't necessarily go up. >> You start changing changing changing manager and but what about other areas? >> There you go. Lisandro Martinez um causing a bit of controversy after the game before we talk about what he was saying and your views on that and we'll get yours by the way game. I switch forward to clear. So if you want to be ahead of the curve you can dial now 03717234. What did you make of the game? >> Well first off I watched Arsenal but then okay which was obviously then I put on the split screen >> by fourway split screen. >> Yeah we sent we sent a picture of >> uh HBO Max by the way if anyone's it's HBO Max. >> I don't know if it is. >> No it is. It's HBO Max. >> He's HBO stick from bloating. >> Hey, if anyone watched the the thing last night saying that um >> I didn't see that. Anyone see that? Anyone see that page? >> HBO Max you go split screen four screens. >> Yeah. All right. Calm down. >> Right. So, um >> don't wink at me. >> No, I'm saying to make sure you're right. You good? >> I'm really [laughter] well. How are you? >> Yeah. No. Yeah, but with the bits I saw, and this is where I do sympathize a little bit with Carrick. You don't miss them chances, man. Like, as bad as you were defensively and Athletico were were decent, >> mate. And Bremer should have left that pitch with at least two. Yeah, >> Bruno had a chance. Rashford had one where I don't know why he's going with that particular technique. Just side foot it, but he tries to take the leather off it. >> It's come over his right shoulder and he tries to volley it as hard as he can with his right foot, >> which is a hard technique, but um >> today I have a bit of sympathy, but again, too easy to play against. Um >> I felt for Lenny Euro as well with the um >> definite red. I mean, people question his last man. He pulls him back. >> Yeah, I get that. But defensively, just all over the place. All over the place. I know it doesn't reflect well on the manager but if you are picking a a part of that performance you have to say and Brema certainly the first one where he opens his body out puts it wide that can't happen you have to take these chances at at that level you have to take those chances but >> you obviously move on to Martinez and you go >> well we'll come to Martinez in a moment there was a few moments in that game I'm like you know my views on Xerxes I just don't understand I like him >> you tried to flog him right in the summer that means he's not good enough >> I thought he's going Everton >> if you try to flog someone that you don't want them they're not good enough right >> you said Rashford you try to flog him >> we okay Well, yes, [laughter] it's a fair point. That is a fair point. >> Well, okay, hold on. Hold on. And at the moment, that decision is being proved right. Terrible. >> He's not good enough. I'll be honest. >> But, um, Xerxy coming in, but for me, I'm like looking at I know, and we're going to talk about Martinez throwing if you like Jason Wilcox or maybe Omar Prada under the bus. We'll talk about that in a moment. But for me, I do think always the manager has to take a blame. I've always said this. When you've got 10 minutes to go and you're two down and you're bringing on Harry Maguire, you know, why? What are you doing? The problem isn't at the back we've concern two-0 or 5-0 it doesn't matter we need to score goals what you bring on the center half for >> yeah but it's things like that but I I understand where you come from and I understand from your perspective >> I don't think you do >> no I do from your well we don't >> I'll have a look what was on the bench >> no but I'm telling you that because now he's throwing Harry Mcguire because when you look at what you had left on the bench right to come on I mean Shay Lacy was probably the one you think >> go Shay Lacy I mean I understand that but obviously Magguire's come for a bit for a little bit of chaos >> that's all you need to say >> Shay Lacy is a No, but but Muire didn't go up top. Maybe corners up far. Yes, I'm saying if you need a goal and sh looks like I'm a big fan of his young decent player, right? >> Yeah. >> Oh, she had 10 men. >> Don't bring what you bring on for with 10 minutes to with 10 minutes to go. I get it. >> You make that change when Lenny got sent off. >> In in this particular scenario, I feel for Carrick because he just he's not getting the whatever team he picks. And this is where again I feel for this is why I always say to you about players because it's it's more the players fault than the manager because the manager can't make them run around first and foremost, right? And when he got to the club there's this real feel good factor. What a person he plays for Man United. He's a legend like all that, right? >> He can't he can't make these players defend properly. You can put them in he can step them up in a certain shape but Fernandez last night was poor again and he's your best player. Tieleman's in the 10 in Brao Rashford. like he's putting these players out there and the reason why he keeps chopping and changing is because he's trying to find a performance from somewhere and every single time he puts someone out there they let him down. >> I still think your performance is down to the manager. >> No way. I don't if I if I can't pass from if I can't pass Pep. All right. Let's take Eddie how right Joe take the best. I >> I want to take Eddie how right with Joe Linton. >> Yeah. >> Now if it wouldn't have been for Eddie how it wouldn't turn him into that powerhouse midfielder that we saw. That's Eddie How's work. >> Yeah. But look at Okay. Look at someone like Phil Foden. Look what Pep did for him. Look how bad he's been for of recent times and he's had the treat as a pep. So I think players players can blow hot and cold but >> let's talk about someone that's blowing hot and cold. Uh the cold being his performance on the pitch and the hot being in the interview afterwards. That's a good link. >> You're betting that. >> No, I think use your 10. That was >> his performance was cold. >> Yeah. Under the microphone hot. >> Landre Martinez, right? What do you make of a player coming out and literally saying there's a problem with the almost like we were promised good players and we haven't been promised and we haven't seen good players. Well, sorry. Whilst >> the teammates in the dressing room are meant to be those good players. >> Well, there's there's two sides to the gift. So, the first one, right, I think there's a little bit of um a a self I'm trying to think of the word I'm looking for. Right. So, so first of all, that interview was for himself as well. I know he spoke about the club, but that was an indication to the board. You ain't giving no contract. >> Him personally. >> Yes. No, that that that's what that was for. >> Yeah, >> you haven't given me a contract. I'm annoyed about this. Um someone just going to slag everyone off cuz it doesn't look like you're going to give me one anyway. So, what's the worst that's going to happen? That that that's the first, right? >> And you're right. When you look at what he said about um the signings and the size of the squad and that if I was a player who'd come in that summer, Tielemans, Santos, Bel, I know he's been a bit injured, right? Even Rashford coming back, I would take that personally because I'm almost like, hold on a second here. you I know he's I know he probably he might have premeditated them and said I'm going to say this right but for him saying that talking about the squad and if you want to compete and the size of the squad and look at Athletico squad look at ours if I'm a player in that dressing room I'm taking it personally >> and first thing if I didn't know about I'm going to tell him hold on you worry about your own performance first before we start calling us out that's why I think there's maybe a personal uh kind of not vendetta but for himself personally about his contract situation but if you're going to come out and all that kind of spill which I've got no issue with fans Man United fans will love it because they've been on the the Glazers and the owners case for a while, right? >> His level of performance has got to be better. >> Okay. I I agree with you and we've got to go to a break, but just quickly, I quite like what he did because I think it takes the pressure off Michael Carrick almost suggesting it's not his fault. >> Yeah, >> it's your fault. Jason Wilcox, no for not strengthening our squad. >> Yeah, a little bit. >> I haven't got a problem with it. Yeah, but I I think every squad like I heard Danny Murphy talk about earlier and he's right when he said um when he said about no players in a dressing room wants better players to come in certainly if they play in your position and I agree with him on that but what if you you're Martinez he's not thinking to himself I want better players to come in in my position he's thinking we need a striker midfielder so he's he's talking about every other position bar his own and there's an element to that that the center forward got one he's injured defensively poor so I I in that respect I do agree ree with what he's saying, but I just think he was maybe the wrong person to deliver that message. >> Yeah. Okay. Uh you can deliver your message to us and the whole world cuz we are all listening. We'll take your calls. Has Landre Martinez made things worse or better at Manchester United 03717234. Dial that number. You can have your say live on Jan talk sport with me Darren Ben. Right after this we're taking calls and all [laughter] San Martinez Man United at le United f up. Hello Lee. How you doing? All right, guys. How you getting on? >> Yeah, good, man. How are you getting on? You all right? Uh, >> look great. Even better after listening to Martinez last night. Um, I'm over the moon with it. >> Yeah, me too. >> Superb. Do >> you know something? There's a there's a there's a lot of unrest in Old Trafford at the moment. And obviously everybody knows that, but as a supporter, um, he's just said on TV what we're all saying. >> We've had a horrendous summer. We we you can't say, "Well, we'll rebuild the front line one summer. We'll build a midfield the next summer." But we need a a back four and you build a house from the bottom. He's absolutely bang on. He's bang on. I'll put a statue of him outside Old Trafford for me for coming out with that. >> Well, you know, there's two ways of looking at it, right? I don't know if you heard what Benty said that I I agree with you. It's nice to hear. And finally, it's like someone's actually outing where the problem begins. But at the same time, if you're if he's there saying we need better players, and the better players we sign are in the dressing room behind you, it's like, hold on a minute. We're meant to be those now. You're slagging us off. I don't know if he means the players that we've brought in. I think he means we needed better players overall within the squad. Um, yeah, maybe he is, you know, I mean, I don't know what goes on in the in the changing room, but maybe he is calling out certain players, but at the end of the day, there are certain players at Manchester United who are stealing a living. They should never be able to pull that shirt on. And maybe he's calling out the quality. He did include himself in that as well, man, because >> he hasn't had a great season so far. >> Oh, yeah. He's been, you know, he's been horrendous, Marty. And that's why say you know if Bruno Fernandez has come out and said this. >> Yeah. >> The impact is massive because you're talking about now your best player. He's probably been the best signing since Fergie left. >> Yes. Without doubt. >> Right. If if it comes from him then everyone goes, "Oh." Cuz then he's just one PFA player of the year. He's I know he's not started off this season great. Or he's already got a few goals and a couple of assists, but all of a sudden everyone goes, "Oh my goodness, if he's saying it because it's Martinez who hasn't started great." >> I I like the fact that someone said it. >> Yeah. Yeah, but but what what what's the worst that could happen to Martinez? They don't give him a new contract. Brilliant. >> Yeah, but I I I think that's irrelevant. I think the fact that a senior player has come out and said it. >> I'm looking I'm not looking forward to it, but I wonder what the ramifications for this will be cuz they ain't going to let >> I imagine the club will find him. There'll be pressure on Michael Carrington to not play him against Lee. >> Well, that that can't happen. If Michael Carrick thinks he's the right person for against Le, they have to play him. >> Tony's United fan is up next. Hi Tony. >> Hi Andy. I'm How are you and Darren? >> Good. Did you forget my name Tony for a minute? I did for a minute. Yeah. [laughter] >> My wife does exactly the same. There's no problem there. Tony, what would you like to say, my friend? >> My view is that what he said most people would agree with, but he's in no position to be saying it. He should be sorting his own performances out on the pitch, not coming on the TV making those sort of remarks. >> So, he can he can say it if he's playing well. Is that what you're saying? No, I'm just the players shouldn't get involved in live interviews like that and he should be concentrating on his own performance because he he's been terrible. Not alone, but he supposedly a World Cup winner has been absolutely shocking and to talk of building a statue for him. Well, I'm sorry. >> I think that was tongue and cheek. I don't think the last caller meant that. Well, it's not his place to be causing problems. >> Do you not think it's nice enough on his plate without somebody spouting off like that? >> Do you not think it helps Carrick? >> No, >> I do. I think it takes the blame away from him a tiny bit. Well, most people would point most of the fingers at Will Cox Barada and more importantly Glazers and Jim Ratcliffe because what's he done since he come in? >> Nothing. No. Made us worse. >> Absolutely nothing. So, everybody knows the problems are at the top and you can't get rid of the Glazers unless the Glazers want to go and somebody can afford to pay the price. So that's just the round and the circle that will never end, isn't it? >> Yeah, I hear what you're saying. Good call. >> Is it the fact that I'm guessing people someone would like to buy Manchester United? It's Manchester United, but is it the fact the Glazers just ain't selling? >> I assume so. >> It must be because the amount of billionaire owners are out kicking about now. Yeah. >> You get all the Man United like if you got a billionaire owner who came in, it ain't taking that long for Man United to get back to him. >> Not Bezos. >> Yeah. Like he went Liverpool, didn't he? >> Okay. Like uh who's the other guy? >> Mosque. >> Musk. >> Right. Yeah. Cuz it's Man United. The revenue is already there cuz the size of the football club. >> Yeah, >> but these guys and the glazes obviously they're not going anywhere. So you that's almost irrelevant now. >> He's almost still to come. We'll be discussing whether Lamino M is on course for the Ballindor or it was just lucky that the ball flicked off the defender. >> Bit skilled out. >> You're talking about come off the deflection. >> A great good. >> It's not mate. It's not. It's embarrassing you say that. >> It's not embarrassing. >> He he wasn't in control of the ball. It flicked off the defender. >> No, but unbelievable bit skill. The first bit was lovely. >> What about the bit where he lost control and it flicked off the defender? >> No. Did he get assist for it? >> He come off the defender. >> Get assist for it. >> Yeah, cuz it came back off the defender. Don't lo the ball in the first place. Time for bet. No googling. >> How petty you are. Honestly, >> just being honest. Everyone saw it. Everyone's got Harry Kane like played unbelievable, right? That crossfield pass you talking about earlier. Unbelievable. No one's talking about that. Everyone's talking about a bit of skill mean flicked off a defender, lost control. >> All right. Useless he is. On this day in ' 06, John Terry was forced to go in goal after two of Chelsea's keepers went off injured. We want to know who's the Oh my god, what a question. Who was the first outfield player to go in goal in the Premier League? Who's come up with that one? Well, Billy, that is unbelievable. Don't answer it cuz you probably do not think you know >> maybe begin with mouths it to me. Yeah, you got it right. Who's it? I hate you so much. Who's the first [laughter] album player to go and go on the Premier League? Great question. Answer to that and so much more. We've only just begun today. Uh happy drive time Wednesday. If you want to be a part of the show, you can. 03717234. A busy busy show coming up live and drive on Talk Sport.