"YOU'RE UNBELIEVABLE!" Jason Cundy CLASHES with Open Goal Podcast & INSISTS Celtic aren't a big club
talkSPORT studio clash: Jason Cundy insists Celtic are not a big club as Open Goal guests hit back with history and financial arguments
The video debates whether Scottish clubs have any point in Europe. Jason Cundy argues Celtic and Rangers are just making up the numbers and are not big clubs, while the Open Goal guests say Premier League money has skewed football and that Celtic, despite regression, must fix things through a top coach and better recruitment.
- Scottish clubs are just making up the numbers in Europe and have no point being there, and they embarrass UK football — They keep getting smashed and cannot be competitive, with another heavy loss at Benfica.
- Premier League money has destroyed football worldwide, with European Cup winners like AC Milan and Ajax now dropping into the Europa League or Conference League, while England ignores the root cause and acts hypocritically — The financial gap pushes historic clubs down, yet English critics only attack Scottish clubs.
- Celtic are 34th out of 36 in the Europa League and it is horrendous — The table position itself proves it.
- Celtic have regressed massively over the last two seasons and that is unacceptable, so the club's decisions must be fixed now; the bigger issue is the financial imbalance caused by English football — The regression is unacceptable, and the financial problem also has to change.
- Celtic cannot compete with a team that spent £100m in the summer when Celtic spent about £18m — The budget gap is far too big.
- Celtic should prioritise getting a top-class coach because a good coach can bridge the money gap; Ange Postecoglou proved that, while appointing an old manager looks like a long-term disaster — An elite coach can offset the financial deficit, as Postecoglou showed.
- Rangers and Celtic are European powerhouses in terms of history, tradition and fanbase — Those areas are not even close in their favour.
- Rangers and Celtic are not big clubs; they are only big in Glasgow, like Newcastle are only big in Newcastle, and every English club is bigger than them — They live in a Glasgow bubble and cannot live off history.
- Celtic are a massive club, but smaller clubs like Bodo/Glimt, Club Brugge and Viking punch above their weight through proper recruitment and running; Celtic have regressed for five or six years and need better recruitment and changes at the top — Those smaller clubs prove the problem is recruitment and operations, not just size.
- Celtic's European campaign this season can already be written off because they do not have the squad or management team to compete in Europe and the league — The squad and management are not good enough for both fronts.
Jason Cundy and Charlie Austin were joined by the @OpenGoal Podcast after Celtic were thrashed 4-1 by Benfica in the Europa League. Subscribe: https://youtube.com/c/talkSPORT 🏆 Ready to win? Check out the latest prizes at talkSPORTwin.com Enjoyed this YouTube video? 😍 🖥️ talkSPORT's Website: https://talksport.com/ 📲 talkSPORT's Twitter: https://twitter.com/talkSPORT 📷 talkSPORT's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/talksport/?hl=en 👤 talkSPORT's Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/talkSPORT/ 📱 talkSPORT's Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@talksport ? 🔴 Download the talkSPORT app HERE! - https://talksport.com/apps/ 🔎 Want to see if you feature on our YouTube channel? Check out our Best talkSPORT callers playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFVMnSsi04LGLa9pS9xDvme-Gjmlu2 talkSPORT PremierLeague celtic
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and the europa league 03717 double two double three double four but first we have to talk honestly they i don't know why they bother this like up in up scotland i don't know where they bother they just tell do you what that it's just one of those make up the numbers you know you need you know when you've been you know when you're looking in the playground right and you're like you need 11 players you know no one wants to pick scottish clubs are always the last we pick you go well god i need another body right need nobody need 11 players that's that's who they are and And again, they disgraced UK football. I think it's more along the lines, Jay, also. What's the point? Chas, what's the point? Can you just go and turn up and play and be competitive? What's the point, mate? what's the point they've done again they were smashed at Benfica tonight remain it's the same old same old story joining us now in a group of legs are watching that a load of guff tonight. I'm delighted to welcome Cy Ferry, Paul Shane and Andy Halliday from the Open Gold Podcast here on the Sports Bar. Boyd, what's the point? What's the point? Cundey what you've got to have my right foot right away it's no Paul Shane it's Paul Slane and when we get started the reason it is with Scottish cause because the Premier League is absolutely destroyed, football worldwide we are talking about clubs like AC Milan, Ajaxi, huge clubs that have won the European Cup, no having to drop down in your Europa League, the conference because of the amount of money that's in the Premier League, and hypocrites like yourself don't say a word about it, what's the point of you? I can't get spanked from teams with a much bigger budget than them, Man City got absolutely spanked from my PSG last night, spanked Chelsea the year before. And where's Chelsea? So your clubs are in this grave. Where's Chelsea? That's the year in Europe, what lives? Shaney, Shaney stop and say Andy, what's it like next to them two? It's a new law. And what's it like next to them two when they start talking like that? Oh, I mean, I love it to them. It's nice. Nice. He's absolutely made for us. So we just let them run with it. But wasn't a great night for Scottish football? But as the boy says, I don't think English Cubs are actually lighting up. Jason's been pretty quiet about Chelsea. She's like a movement European football man. So I don't need to, mate, honestly. We're club world champions, right? It's a pipe down. All right, you know where we're at. You, you, honestly, they played that champions. They got point tonight. You play tournaments and easy three points. Unfortunately, what is the point of scott Scottish clubs in Europe help me out yes give me okay just just pretend I've come from Mars right I've just come from Mars and I'll come down I'm looking around again right says Scotland they're in Europe explain the point of why you're in Rangers got to the final five years ago Yeah Celtic have won it 67 Celtic have won it Sorry when? And by the way The last English club to win the Europa League When? A Scottish manager came from this league and won it for of them and post the Coglu it's got his fans as well what about scottish fans better than english fans games use a games these are games the way is Not in the booties. Listen, you lot are unbelievable. I can't believe the neck. The neck that you've got the gall to sit there and argue about a Scottish manager. That's your argument? What is the point of Scottish clubs in Europe? Just listen. David Moyes is here. Oh, David Moyes. No, just listen. When it was a level playing field, when it was a level playing field, Celtic Rangers absolutely annihilated your clubs. But as I said earlier on, the money's been popped into your league and you're all going vocal about Man City. By the way, we're going to start looking into the rest of the league football that money. Aye. And when we come and tap you for the rest of the league, we'll see who's going to win it then. Eh? Thanks, Mick. Good. We welcome Dunandi I don't want to see you, though. Cheats. You, though. Cheats. Shaney, calm down. Shaney, slow down. Shaney, slow down a little bit. You're 34th in the league. In the Europa League. There's 36 teams in it. It's horrendous. No, listen. I'll be serious. I'll be serious for a wee minute. This season and last season, Celtic have regressed massively and that's not acceptable. And the decisions at the club have to be fixed right now. The change is not as needed. So for that side, it isn't acceptable. But in the bigger picture, we're looking at English football and it has to change, lads. It does financially. Listen, don't come on in. Celtic are playing against a team that spent 100 million quid in the summer. I'm right and saying that. Celtic spent close to what? 18 million quid for how you want to compete. Who's that? Who's what's that? Well, you, like Slain it says, your game done south ruined the game up here. Bunch of hypocrites of lotties and that's doing all the media channels. Benfica Portuguese has spent all the money which is absolutely fine and like you say 100 minute but Celtic we can always talk about your football club guys and that is what they're turning out week in week out let's be clear you shouldn't have won the league last year that's one thing and and this year, all of a sudden, you are having one. You are 34th out of 36 teams in Europa League, chaps. Charlie, no, listen, as I say, it's not acceptable. We're talking about two years ago, Si. Two years ago, Celtic were in the knockout stages via Bayern Munich. A minute away from extra time for knocking them out during the quarterfinal. In the last two years, as I say, the club have regressed massively and changes much Did you say a minute away from what? No, regress. Does that frustrate you? A minute away from... Extra time against Bayern Munich. Sorry. Sorry. we was a bubble away from the championship son we can't keep going back to that mate it just happens you cost me my career missing that chance hopeless and that's why i'm sitting here don't be like that all serious guys where do you go from here celtic football club where'd you go so for me certainly need to get a top class coach and i think when the the deficit is so big in terms of money, the thing that can make it up is having a right good coach. Ange Postacoglu showed that he bridged the gap between Celtic and clubs in Europe. They've obviously appointed a 74-year-old manager that was at the club 20 years ago, which in the short term has looked like a good appointment in the long term has been a bit of disaster. So, I think the main priority for a club like Celtic is to get a top coach in charge of the football club. and this is to the boys as well as Anne. Don't take them, Mick. No, no, I'm not. Celtic can write, are you an attractive football club to them players that's going to get you to compete in the in europe well have you done that why have you asked that question it's terrible I think in terms of size you know the stature of the clubs the history of the clubs the fan base of the clubs for me there's no doubt whatsoever that Rangers and Celtic are European powerhouses No, you're not! But in terms of fight of course they are, of course they are. What do you mean a European powerhouse? Absolutely, in terms of history, tradition and fanbases it's not even close. I mean, you cannot tell me that Rangers and Celtic aren't one of the most supported clubs in world football. If Rangers and Celtic had half the finances that clubs and the Premier League had, wow. Do you know what? In a thousand years' time, there will be some idiot sitting there like you, saying exactly the same thing. And then nothing will have changed. You can't live off history. You make history. You can't live off history. You can't live You can't live off history. What can you live off? You can't keep doing it. I said a thousand years deliberately. You can't keep doing this. Your granddads, in future years, right? Your kids and your future kids. You can't keep saying the same thing, you lot. When are you going to go? How many clubs in England do you think are bigger than Rangers and Celtic? Everyone! They're all bigger because you lot live in a bubble. Name them. Name Pass your bedtime, Kundig. Here's the thing, right? You lot, you live in Glasgow. You live in a bubble like Newcastle. Everyone thinks Newcastle is a massive football club. You are the Newcastle of the North. Everyone thinks Newcastle is a big club. They're not. They're big in Newcastle. You guys are big in Glasgow. That's it. That's it. Full stop, draw a line. Over. Done. Cooked. But you live in this bubble. So what makes Chelsea a big club? What makes Chelsea a big club? Because of the money and who we are, where we live, two Champions League, Premier Leagues, Premier Leagues, Premier Leagues, I mean. Where did that money come from? Why? Listen, winning Champions Leagues, I mean, come on guys, get back in your box. How many champions have Chelsea won? Get back in your box. Quick up. 1-1. He's won the Champions League inside, they won the Champions League twice under Abramovich. What happened to him? Changed out the club. There's the count. Celtic won in 67. Legit. 67! 67, this is your argument. 60s! Honestly, you lot are unbelievable. It's Eddie behind the couch. It's like we've got Sunderland all over again all serious all serious jokes aside how does how does selling turn this around we could honestly go on about the money but you ain't ever getting the money in scottish football because that's that's what it is right no one really watches it everybody watched Scottish football last year because a free horse race that was it right so now how do you bring more eyes to the game how as in all seriousness we're laughing and joking about finances and the stats of the club but Celtic are a massive club if you look at Bodo Glimpton what they're doing in the Champions League you look at Club Brews going away to Inter Milan and winning last night you look at Vikings getting a draw against Bayern Munich. That is three clubs that are undoubtedly smaller than Celtic and Rangers, but through proper recruitment, through the run of the football club, they're managing to punch above their weight. You look at Celtic, Celtic have regressed massively year in, year out over the last five, six years. And as the boy says, two years ago, they were in a Champions League knockout phase game against Bayern Munich, took them extra time on how much the club has regressed over the two years how do they fix it recruit better players probably a change at the top and i agree with si for me you cannot appoint a 74 year old manager and think that's a long-term solution to success. But he won the league last year and he got them over the line last year And he deserved enormous credit for what he'd done coming in. The club was fractured in terms of the fan base, the board, the club, the players and he came in and it felt as if he banded everyone together for the last five, six months whatever it was to the season but you're talking about long term how does Celtic change for me it's not a 74 year old that can change that. channel and if you want to head over to YouTube right now, you can see the guys reacting to their watch along tonight. Have a watch of this. So there's no audio here, right? Oh, look at this. Look at this. Oh, he's kicking. What happened there? boys that was. Yeah, I know it feels like that. Oh, what were you kicking? Just lost a plot. Yeah. Lost the plot completely. Okay. That wasn't the selling game, he had the webcam set up in his girlfriend's house. Come on guys. What did, what was your expectations going into this fixture? Man just not at all me that stage now you're not expecting any in Europe for selling by and they said man on you came in last year and you said Charlie they were winning games but anyone that knew football knew the performances would not have been good enough for European football this year and the board failed to see that failed to appoint a top coach. It's every year though isn't it? No I get No, I get that. It's every year. No, no, no. It's not every year. It's every year. It's every year. Now, I get that. It's not every year. It's not every year. Are you putting... So again, when telecard Brendan Odder, was it Brendan Odder in charge for Bayern in Munich. Are you putting the line through The last 16 of the Champions League, so it just shows you how important a manager is. Si, are you putting the line through Europe this season? Are you putting the line through Europe this season? Yeah, yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah, I don't think they've got the squad They've got the management team to compete in Europe as well as the league. They don't reach Halloween! Go from. Where did he say? It's Halloween, and you've drawn a line into it. Honestly, you lot. Boys. I've seen you play. I've seen you play, Cundee. You didn't even get a game of commandment. No, No, that's a lie. So he's a couple years older than me. We ain't that old to see you play me, aren't we? No, he was in nappies. Yeah, definitely. They were decent back then, weren't they, when I was when i was playing mate you're asking me i don't know you're that old i don't know what do you mean i'm that old well i don't remember you playing i don't respectfully right okay right so we're all becoming 80s are we is that how it's going to be a chick to talk about european football is this is this how it's got to be getting ages now yeah is this right boys love you cy ferry paul slaney and uh andy halliday there from the open goal podcast up next though cheers boys up next take