"HE'S WEAK!" Simon Jordan QUESTIONS Michael Carrick's ability to turn Man Utd around!

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Simon Jordan questions whether Michael Carrick can turn Manchester United around

The show looks at Manchester United's troubles after the draw with Leeds, whether Martinez should have been dropped for publicly criticising the club hierarchy, and Carrick's coaching and squad issues. Simon Jordan concludes that Carrick is weak and not elite, while Martin believes he deserved the chance but is currently falling short tactically and in recruitment.

Simon Jordan, Jim White & Martin Keown discuss Manchester United's recent problems and whether Michael Carrick is the man to turn things around. Subscribe: https://youtube.com/c/talkSPORT Enjoyed this YouTube video? 😍 🖥️ talkSPORT's Website: https://talksport.com/ 📲 talkSPORT's Twitter: https://twitter.com/talkSPORT 📷 talkSPORT's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/talksport/?hl=en 👤 talkSPORT's Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/talkSPORT/ 📱 talkSPORT's Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@talksport ? 🔴 Download the talkSPORT app HERE! - https://talksport.com/apps/ 🔎 Want to see if you feature on our YouTube channel? Check out our Best talkSPORT callers playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFVMnSsi04LGLa9pS9xDvme-Gjmlu2 talkSPORT PremierLeague manchesterunited

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Mr. Keon was bursting to talk about Manchester United when he came into this office uh earlier on this morning. And Martin, I know there's various aspects of it that you want to address, but I don't think you've spoken to us yet. We're just record. We've got very young producer and I was actually just I was suggesting I was suggesting is this the right order, you know, and just challenging a little bit, >> you know, as I can be good to and so for those Man United fans out there, look, it it matters. no a hoot to me what what how they do right but at the end of the day I felt it needed to be discussed yeah >> the two wins in 10 is not quite right >> well we're discussing it one win in seven in the Premier League um before we get on to that draw at Ellen Road and what may or may not happen to Carrick for the first time you get a chance to talk about Landro Martinez situation postmatch in Madrid after Atletico Madrid he hit out at the hierarchy for not having done enough um he cpped for Simon told us what he thought of him for doing that. What did you think? >> Well, I mean, look, there there's a time and a place for anything. But afterwards, why I was just saying yesterday was doing Premier League games yesterday and I felt that Martinez shouldn't be playing in the match. So, there's a sort of behavior that we have and if we're going to simulate Sir Alex Ferguson, you know, you ask yourself what he would have done. Look what happened to Roy Keane when he spoke out of the football club. So, look, for me, the way that it works is I'm Jim, you're very good at what you do, but you're not going to play today. Yeah. If you're Martinez, I'm going to have to sit you out of this because >> you can't. This is like Roy Keane having a go at David Gil. This is like Jason Wilcox is quite high within the football club. >> For me, that's what should have happened. The player only managed 45 minutes anyway. I don't know whether that was brought on injury was brought on by the the the stress of it all. Um and I don't understand why that decision wasn't made. That's first and and so you've got all these sorts of problems >> even though they ultimately apologize >> and then in their performance, the actual performance, >> you know, they apologize, Martin. Well, that doesn't do it for you. >> It has to be an amazing apology, but there's actually an etiquette how we behave in the club and I need to protect you that I need to protect Jason Wilcox because it's unfortunate even if your hand is in the air reflecting and I suggest it probably is. That's the worrying thing that in the dressing room the feeling is recruitment's not been quite on it. If you look at purchases made in the summer, they've had the fewest minutes those substitute those those signings of any other club. Now, something's wrong there, isn't I know Bibra had he had an injury maybe, but they're not really Tielemans is the only one who's really had the minutes on the pitch. So, and had they got the finances, Simon would know better whe they've got really got the finances to to spend the money. But what we can do is make the right calls and Jim, if you speak out of turn, you start hammering people. No, no, no. I I know you tried to apologize as you said it, but the damage has been done. We'll start again. You'll be playing next week. >> You surprised he you surprised he started? >> Well, he must think that the side's better with him in it. I've got no evidence of that because I thought he was dreadful against Tottenham. Down for the goal against Sanki, got bullied. Um, and I don't think he's been particularly earthshattering since he's been there. >> But the irony irony is he plays because the recruitment has not been good enough. There's no real replacement. >> Yeah, but at the same time that's wrong in itself. >> But you talk about what would have happened when Ferguson was there. When he bombed Keane, >> it was 19 years after he managed the club. He was in a very strong position as a manager. He had been there for a very long period of time and Roy Keane stepped out from underneath him and he got put back in his place as a player. Carrick is 15 minutes into his job. He doesn't have the same cache, the same qualifications, the same personality as Ferguson, so he has a different way of managing. >> What's right and proper? What's the right >> what's right and proper? But well, look, it'd be interesting to see that Carrick obviously thought, >> "Oh, no. I want him to play." >> Bomb him. >> But Carrick thought I want him to play. >> Absolutely. But then what it suggests to the board is that he actually agrees with what's being said which doesn't necessarily help Carrick because if I mean the interesting thing would have been for me is what the board or whoever it was Will Cox or whoever right Barada >> you know and how he's still in a joint man United with his associated message I don't know but that's a different discussion would have been saying something to Carrick about who get hold of your players >> who do they think they are your jurisdiction is your players these players want to speak like that they speak to you like it they don't speak to the media like it if that's what you feel the relationship you want to engender. They're putting him back in the side is an interesting one. But at no point I don't know if Martin thinks he was right to have said what he said. I mean he he people like we had a lot of calls say internally. You can say it internally but you can't say externally. Don't hang out your dirty washing. They always used to say this at Liverpool was a big thing about keeping it internalize it. >> Use it. >> Well, he said what he said and he started the match and the rest is history. They drew it 1-1. Having been ahead against lead United, they ended up walking out with a draw. So, let's get into the ribs of this. They've won one and seven. They're sitting in the Premier League with seven points at the moment. Um, it's our understanding here that Manchester United blocked players from speaking in the mix zone after the match at Leads. So, the mix zone when the players walk through and the media have got uh the opportunity to to pick out a player and ask him a question, the players did not answer anything that they were asked and that came on the instruction of the football club. And yet Carrick after the 1-1 result opted to put a brave face in it and put a kind of positive stance on it. Have a listen. >> Not getting too carried away cuz we haven't won the game. But um I think if you keep doing the right things and for for the right reasons then um you get what you deserve in the end, you know. And I think that was it was a felt like a bit of a fresh start if I'm honest today and and um where we're at and accepting it and doing something about it. And um it definitely shows that the boys are desperate desperate to do well for each other as much as anything else. And uh and how much we appreciate playing for this football club cuz there was a there was a um there was a real um purpose to to the group over the last couple of days and and they took it on the pitch. And that's a tough game today. I have to say that's a tough game the way they play and um it can find you out pretty quickly and the boys stood up to it really well. >> What is your take Simon on his take? >> I think he's weak but that's perhaps because he's in a difficult moment. I think that you've reached a point in Manchester United's history and achievements where they can justify players bothering to lift a leg in a fierce game between two massive rivals rivals that have history amongst one another demand performances against one another as some barometer of a new start seven games into a season against a side that is doing well but not picked to be a particularly dominant side in the Premier League and make it out as if you've crossed the Rubicon. That's what he's dressing that up as. I'm We've crossed the Rubicon in this game. We played against a very difficult side in a very difficult fixture la. But Manchester United are still expected to be a dominant force. They finished third in the league. You beat these teams. That's what you do. >> You don't turn around and say how what how how grateful you are in some respects for the players to responded to the fact that they clearly want to play for this football club. Well, that's very magnanimous of them. I I mean I'm I'm watching the game and I think from a tactical point of view there were 30 crosses that came into the box from from leads and they never really got to grips with the system they were up against. try to go they're not really proactive. They just basically tried to survive the game unless they I mean leads are not bad Jim by the way. the week before >> they took Arsenal, you know, they went in front against Arsenal and they really >> ran out of gas. >> Ran out of gas. Arsenal win the game. So, it kind of set the team up really to negate the opponent and that's not a Manchester that kind of feels but maybe that's where we are right now, Jim. We're 12 years down the line from Manchester United last. They seem to have lost all of that aura. >> It's not there anymore. And you and you think, well, when will it return? >> Do you and I know you you probably you want to avoid these things like positioning yourself as not being eager to have a go at Man United. understand why you did it because they'll take it as a opportunity for former Arsenal man to do that. Do you look at Carrick as a solution? Honestly, >> I think he deserved to be given the opportunity of what he did when he came in and really difficult circumstances and and managed to make championship question mate. >> No, I think he deserved it. But now the issue was always going to be can they with the workload has the is the squad good enough? Can he make the right tactical decisions? And at the moment it's proving that he can't. So it's it's tricky. He has to find a foothold. He probably sees that that he gets a point. But the next games now are really important that they get something out of it. Otherwise, the noise that Manchester United gets greater than anywhere else. >> True. >> I mean, I'm just looking at Kuo. >> You spoke to the owner of Kently, didn't you? >> The president. Yeah. So, the president, they they have got high hopes of having themselves a good season and they are having themselves a good season at this particular time. >> Um they went to Florentina at the weekend for the record. They won 3-1. Then they've got Bournemouth at home. first win of the season weekend. >> Is that is that the time that Carrick hopes this is going to turn around for the better and there'll be no looking back? >> Well, it has to, doesn't it? It simply has to. Um >> I mean, I hate asking it, but how long has he got? >> Well, I like Embulma down the middle. They've had various options in that position. He needs to play center forward and and >> you wanted to talk about Man United one and seven. This is not good enough. >> It's not good enough. But you look at Tielemans is probably the one that you know yesterday really good ball into the box. There was a couple actually in Bulma could have had a couple of goals and it could have put maybe the game outside but it was leads that were running the show but they just did that on the break. It's like he'll be given the time because they don't want to rush into any of this gym and he he deserves >> else is available out there as well >> but he but he has to use that. They got Chelsea to follow that talking about Kante. Haven't we about >> Yeah. >> Roma comes up after Chelsea. >> Yeah. And then Villa it, you know, you got to start winning games of football at the moment. It's simply not >> when you look at United and they were decent against Man City, but you look at three games this season. When they started the season against Holland, they were appalling >> against a newly promoted side that's going to come with vim and vigor, but notwithstanding, not quality, you know, against Brighton in the League Cup, against Everton in the league, um, and recently against Tottenham where they were lucky to get a result out of that game despite going one up with 10 men. Yeah. And those are the indications of of of where they are. I think that a more ruthless football orientated ownership model would have sat there and said to Michael Carrick, "Thank you very much for what you've done. Thank you for getting us in the Champions League. But now we need to move on and make a decision about where we think the best direction to go forward in because I don't see Michael Carrick traveling um troubling Mikuel Letta anytime soon. >> Right. In terms of upward movements or some of the other elite managers, I don't think he's in the same category as Unai Emery. I don't think he's as good a manager as a Liverpool manager. I don't think he's as good as manager of as a good manager of any of the five or six managers that he's competing against. So if you've got that as a factor, how do you catapult? Honestly, I'm asking the question. How do you catapult Manchester United back into a position of influence if you've got a manager that isn't as good as the five or six counterparts that he's playing against? >> It's a fair question, isn't it, Martin? It's a fair question. It's the only question really. >> I mean, yeah, but you look at the goals, they're not where are the goals coming from? They just can't they can't score a goal to save them. >> And Ko going along very nicely at this particular time under Ces Fàregas. Who would love >> to get one over Carrick and Manchester United? Um, we'll watch for that. We'll talk further about United in the course of this week. We'll talk boxing in a second. What's next for Dubois? What's next for Wadley?