"UNKNOWN TERRITORY!" Ben Jacobs EXPLAINS Man City's potential SANCTIONS after Oliver Holt REPORT!

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Ben Jacobs explains Man City's potential sanctions as the timeline and severity remain unknown

The show discusses Oliver Holt's report that Manchester City could face a points deduction, relegation and a huge fine, and examines whether the Premier League can hold a sanctions hearing while City appeal. The conclusion is that both the severity and timing of any punishment remain highly uncertain, while Premier League and Championship clubs want clarity; the latter part covers UEFA demanding answers from Gianni Infantino over several controversies.

Ben Jacobs joined Jeff Stelling and Gabby Agbonlahor on Breakfast to breakdown Oliver Holt's latest report on Manchester City's potential sanctions from their 115 charges. Subscribe: https://youtube.com/c/talkSPORT 🏆 Ready to win? Check out the latest prizes at talkSPORTwin.com Enjoyed this YouTube video? 😍 🖥️ talkSPORT's Website: https://talksport.com/ 📲 talkSPORT's Twitter: https://twitter.com/talkSPORT 📷 talkSPORT's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/talksport/?hl=en 👤 talkSPORT's Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/talkSPORT/ 📱 talkSPORT's Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@talksport ? 🔴 Download the talkSPORT app HERE! - https://talksport.com/apps/ 🔎 Want to see if you feature on our YouTube channel? Check out our Best talkSPORT callers playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFVMnSsi04LGLa9pS9xDvme-Gjmlu2 talkSPORT PremierLeague manchestercity mancity

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Now, are we closer to hearing the outcome of Manchester City's charges than we actually think? You know, at least their punishment. We know the outcome of the charges. Olly Holtz written in the Daily Mail this morning that City's punishment could be announced before the result of their appeal. He says, soundings from insiders suggest the most likely punishment is a swinging point deduction which will ensure City's relegation of the Championship and a huge fine. It's also possible that the punishment would include a further points deduction that would effectively confine City to the Championship for at least one more season. Not enough. Look, I like Oli Holt. I like I like Ollie Holt a lot. But let's just put this in perspective. This is on Daily Mail Plus, which means that story is behind a paywall, OK? So to find out what Ollie knows, you have to pay. I clicked on it and he said you had to pay I've gone never mind yeah I mean let's get more on this with TalkSport senior football correspondent Ben Jacobs who joins us now morning Ben morning Ben it's all guesswork this isn't it nobody knows do they nobody has inside us well lawyers that i speak to are split and several do say that it would be within the premier league's power to try and proceed to the sanctions hearing at the same time as manchester city appeal and yet they caution that city's perspective will be to try and block everything and say no how can you offer up a punishment if the entire appeal could change the very complexion of the verdict. So, if the Premier League succeed on this point and it's under strict confidentiality, so we don't yet know, then it would be very easy to move to a sanctions hearing, which is traditionally quick, a matter of weeks after the verdict, because it's the same panel. However, if City block that sanctions hearing, then we're looking at the earliest next year before we really understand what might be next. Now, within the context of this sliding scale of punishments, a points deduction is the easier part in the sense that there is precedent, Everton, Nottingham Forest, Leicester in the EFL. And there's kind of an algorithm. So the bigger your losses in any given year, specifically relating to PSR, the more severer points deduction would be. And because City are repeat offenders in this guilty verdict at the moment, then if you add all that up, it would be logical to assume it will be a relatively big points deduction. But again, can City block the sanctions hearing that delays things. And there are other charges that are harder to calculate a punishment. And that's why we're in some unknown territories regarding the severity of what a punishment could be, but also timelines. I do think everyone is guessing though. You look at like, like Jeff said there, Oliver Hull and Martin Keogh on the show yesterday said that he's hearing whispers that it's not going to be a big punishment. It's going to get on with football. I feel we just have to wait and see, don't we? Everyone stopped guessing. But if the punishment, Ben isn't as big as it should be, you know, he's going to be talking about this for years to come. Every other Premier League team, every fan base is going to be saying, hang on a second, you know, a certain amount of points to get them relegated is not enough. There's got to be other punishments that's taking titles off them, not giving them to other teams or taking titles off them and further point deductions for multiple seasons? Yeah, a lot of people I speak to want this multiple seasons punishment. I'm talking about club sources in particular because they don't actually want to expel Manchester City and even if that was the recommended punishment, it still has to go to a vote, and you need 15. And I'm not so sure that you've got 15 members of the Premier League that would vote to expel City. But a punishment over multiple seasons, a smaller point stood reduction or a fine or a transfer ban that extends beyond just one season, kind of decelerates this city model over the same kind of period that it was able to accelerate and many I speak to think that that's a punishment that fits the crime. And I say crime because it's based now, even though this is not a criminal proceeding on a guilty verdict. So we're not saying allege, we're saying guilty but if city and their appeal are able to overturn these charges or change the complexion of the verdict then any punishments we're speaking about may not match the reality and this is where we have a real challenge because Premier League clubs are pushing for clarity between now and the end of the season otherwise they believe that this whole season itself becomes a bit of a sham and yet from City's point of view they're entitled to a fair trial and Richard Masters is up against time not just the facts of this case and if we get to the point where it's May June July and we don't yet know what the conclusion of this case is regardless of facts that may or may not be out there then we go from a damning verdict to a lot of question marks over whether that can be turned into a punishment quick enough and if that's the case city might return and say you know what let's just end all of this and as bizarre as it may sound now because of these non-cooperation charges city may feel that if too much time passes and they go kind of nuclear in legal terms every different avenue to challenge everything eventually it could come full circle and it might be in everyone's interest to settle and some i speak to believe that that's what city are banking on go all in on trying to vindicate their name and if they fail go all in on dragging this out as long as possible so if they do want to settle maybe the premier league after all of this just feel exhausted by the whole process because i think that's the position that fans and clubs are already in even now. I mean, a really interesting text yesterday, by the way, saying if there isn't a punishment determined by January, are city allowed to go out and buy who they want to in that January transfer window? Look, let's just move on for a moment, Ben, shall UEFA have set a deadline for FIFA to address their concerns about Gianni Infantino, and there are a lot of concerns. Yeah, there's 42 concerns, no less, and this is off the back of the FIFA Council last Thursday, where Gianni Infantino told some of his critics in the room, put your questions in writing so UEFA have done. And I've seen the latter. And although there are a lot of different points, they broadly fall under three different controversies. FIFA Forward Enterprise, Gianni Infantino's plans to impart privatised FIFA, Flo Balogun's red card that was suspended at the World Cup and as I exclusively revealed Donald Trump had called Gianni Infantino and asked him to review the matter and this FIFA Peace Prize, which could be scrapped by December, Gianni Infantino has asked for it to be reviewed and a recommendation made and it went to one recipient, Donald Trump. So UEFA essentially saying if Gianni Infantino's got nothing to hide, answer questions on all of these topics and a few more as well. And they want those answers by November the 2nd, which then gives UEFA 16 days between the 2nd of November and the 18th of November to take these answers and maybe use them as ammunition as they look to find a candidate to run against Gianni Infantino at the next FIFA presidential election, which is in March. Ben, thank you very much indeed. Thank you, Ben. Thanks, guys. Talksport senior football correspondent Ben Jacobs there. I mean, like, you talk about Man City there, they can by in January. But what about the teams that go down this season? We would have strengthened if we knew, we wouldn't have strengthened if we knew, like, they need to make a decision now. Why Manchester City win the league? And they celebrate, and then what? Two months later, I was taken off you. And then Arsenal get it, and then days to shambles, Geoff. It is, and it's a very... Sad? Look, it's a very difficult situation as well, as far as the Premier League are concerned, because everybody talks about relegating them and so on and so forth. But we mentioned this yesterday, nobody in the Championship wants Manchester City to be relegated into there because effectively it could take a promotion place away from them next season. Of course there's no guarantee that the big names would stay at City if that was the case, but the chances are, with their financial clout, that City would win promotion and that will cost somebody If you're a City fan, you're a City fan. And whatever happens here, whatever the outcome of this is, then you should still be a City fan. That's your club. Of course there's ways to to act as a fan as well. They're going to always back their club, but I just think this can't go on and on, Geoff. It can't. It's making the Premier League look like a Mickey Mouse league if they can't stand firm and give the punishment as necessary. That Talks sport trip to Marbella. Greeno says, I'll tag along with you, Geoff, and share with you. Take you out on the town and make you sign a pre-contract with me. And then we would have the Geoff and Greeno breakfast show. No, Greeno. You'd have the Gabby and Grino breakfast show. So after so much misery, Spurs fans can head into work today with a smile on their faces, much like O'Hara. Oh, yes! Yes! It's 3-1! Ben David! You beauty! I told you, it's been coming and we are back. We've put them to the sword. Come on, the Spurs! We are back. Are you back? Harrison. Come and give us a call this morning, Spurs fans, and tell us