"I BLAME THE MANAGER!" Andy Goldstein HAMMERS "APPALLING" Manchester United after Spurs draw!

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Host slams appalling Manchester United after Tottenham draw and says Michael Carrick must carry the blame

The show focuses on Manchester United's 1-1 draw with 10-man Tottenham at Old Trafford, their worst league start since 1986. The host and guest debate whether Michael Carrick should carry the blame and whether the squad, especially the defence, is good enough, while Tottenham are praised for dominating with 10 men but criticised for poor finishing. A United caller argues the problems run from the top down and that changing the manager may not fix much.

Andy Goldstein & Darren Bent react to Manchester United's 1-1 draw against 10-man Tottenham Hotspur this Saturday, with Goldstein claiming the blame lays at Michael Carrick's feet... Subscribe: https://youtube.com/c/talkSPORT 🏆 Ready to win? Check out the latest prizes at talkSPORTwin.com Enjoyed this YouTube video? 😍 🖥️ talkSPORT's Website: https://talksport.com/ 📲 talkSPORT's Twitter: https://twitter.com/talkSPORT 📷 talkSPORT's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/talksport/?hl=en 👤 talkSPORT's Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/talkSPORT/ 📱 talkSPORT's Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@talksport ? 🔴 Download the talkSPORT app HERE! - https://talksport.com/apps/ 🔎 Want to see if you feature on our YouTube channel? Check out our Best talkSPORT callers playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFVMnSsi04LGLa9pS9xDvme-Gjmlu2 talkSPORT PremierLeague

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No, let's talk to Man United cuz you said it was impossible for Spurs to win, but they didn't win. >> So, I was right. >> No, but you said >> That's a very good point. >> But you also said it was impossible. >> Bang on the money. >> They should have beat you five. >> That was at Halime. >> They're bottoming league. >> Should we start with it? >> Jeez, >> they're not anymore. >> They were. >> Uh, Man United have made their worst start to a season for 40 years after failing to beat bottom of the table 10-man Spurs. So, does Michael Carrick stay or go? [music] >> Manchester United won. Spurs nil. Brian Bumo is the goal scorer. Matteas Kuner with a ball in from the left. 15 minutes of normal time remaining. Manchester United one. Spurs nil. >> We'll score at least four. >> Manchester United one. The 10 men of Spurs one. Dominic Sanki is trying to claim this one. The United fans WERE TAUNTING TOTTENHAM. YOU'RE GOING DOWN WITH THE CITY. They were singing. >> Will you apologize to me on Monday? >> Full time. Manchester United won. Tottenham one. >> Bit harsh out. I said Spurs wouldn't Man United wouldn't lose. That's bang on the money yet again. Dominic Sanki's equalizer means Man United six points from six games is their worst start to a league season since 1986. They took the lead through Brian and Bumo before Rodrigo Bener saw Redford Spurs, but Sankeni earned a point for Tottenham with a 92nd minute header. Michael Carrick spoke to sport after the game and said he understands the fans frustrations. to not see it off um is uh is the is is a very disappointing one because it's it's a couple of times really that's happened and um everything could look very different and feel very different without a couple of late goals that we could maybe done a little bit more to stop. >> Just a little stat to uh to move this section along. Man United got six points having played two promoted side Haranich two sides who went down to 10 men. Man City in Spurs and two sides who began the day bottom of the league, Fulham and Spurs. Before we slag off Man United, and we will slag off Man United, right? So, just a quick pat on the back to Tottenham. >> They were outstanding. Like, you know, I've seen them of recent times play that. >> I think that's Yeah, >> they were outstanding. The way they played front foot, the way they started the game, their simple problem is they just can't score. That that is that is if they had someone who could score and I think Silanki can be that person. We've seen him do it, right? Because they at Halime I'm I'm actually I'm watching the game I'm thinking um I'm thinking all right first chance goes where Sanki should shoot after you guys gave the ball away >> playing at the back. What's that? >> He's trying to be too precise. Gallagher has a chance. Kudas has a chance. These are three clear-cut chances. Should have been three down. Then Silanki second half puts one over the bar. They had so many chances. I'm thinking I know what's going to happen and you know it's coming scores a really good goal by the way. Really good finish. But if you're the Zerby and it was amazing watching his reactions on the side because his reactions were one of he's getting more and more frustrated about the chances. Then he starts laughing because he's like we ain't never going to score. Then when they score he bites the ball. I think if you're you're Tottenham 10 men as well you're taking all the positives in the world that you've played against Manchester United you've dominated the whole game and should win. But on the flip side, Manchester United, oh, how many times have I sat on here said to you, Mayu can't run and you always argue and say, "Yeah, he can." Second half, it was like Spurs, it was like 4v2 at times for Spurs when when Bel and E look fantastic. >> He'll make a big difference. But I don't think you can play May and Tielemans together. >> No, you can't mobile by the way. Everyone was get so we were in the States when that deal happened and I went and everyone was like, "No, it's good." And I was like, "Oh, is it okay? I've got that wrong then." Yeah, >> I haven't got that wrong. >> No, on the ball. Yeah, fair enough. We are. Here's my question right now. You and I, we differ as to whose fault it is when a team lose, right? I'm very much it's the manager, right? You pat the manager on the back when you win and it's the manager's fault when you lose. >> If you're playing a bottom of the table side in Tottenham, >> and you are one n up at home and they have 10 men. >> Yeah. >> I'm sorry. There is no excuse. There is no reason why you don't get three points other than >> you can't see a game out. And we've seen it before when uh who Man City were down to 10, right? I know the goal shouldn't have been allowed but it's sort of irrelevant. It was and we should have won that game. I mean just we were just so bad right when when you look at our back four our back four are appalling like early on Harry Mcguire gave a ball away and I was like how's he done that back four's terrible you're right about Kobin Tielemans Tieman's I like I like Kobin I think we believe an ext stuck and Bumo up top I would have put him on one side I would have put Kuno on the other and and um uh Bruno Fernandez just behind >> and then and then when you watch someone with a bit of experience who can push Tottenham's defense and maybe give a reason why Tottenham can't move up the field as much because they're worried about the pace of someone you bring on. Bring on Rashford. Don't bring on I mean Xerxy man. >> I thought I thought he was all right when he came on. >> I keep saying it. He's appalling. Him and Dodo should be nowhere near that team. >> I get that, but I thought I actually thought he did right when he came. >> Rashford on the bench. >> And this is the thing about Rashford and I get it. I know your opinion on Rashford is a bit skewed because you've loved him from day one, right? But Michael Carrick when he first came back, I remember him speaking really positive about Rashford, saying he's going to get him back in the team. He's going to get him in the squad. He feels he can have a real impact. And I come on here and said before, if your heart's not in it, right? >> Yeah. >> Then you'll never you'll never see the best of anyone. And Rashford's heart's clearly not in it. And Carrick's obviously seeing that, which is why he's bringing on Xerxy before Carrick. But I just think >> he's trying to sell Zer in the summer. Now he's good enough to come. >> Well, he's on the verge of gand. I I just think for Manchester United I just don't think are good enough. I think maybe where they are right now, >> we're not good enough. We're appalling. But I >> You've kept one clean sheet this season. That was Champions League. >> I do I do blame the manager. I blame the manager in any club. >> Oh, no. Club No, hold on. When it was when it was like big Andrew Spurs, I blame the manager. Right. >> Did you give him the credit for winning the Europa League? >> I don't think I did give him the credit for >> Well, [laughter] can't you can't have both ways. >> Okay. Well, I would now looking back on it. Yeah, I would give him the credit. You are 100% right now. I would. The team don't play well. If you can't beat a 10-man bottom of the table team at home when you're one up, it's the manager. But this is what I said to you when we were talking about you said grade Spurs and I said I said you were four and you said no six and I laughed. You saw it the weekend like I have seen more and I get it when you look at the table. Manchester United are currently 13th. Right. And when you look what's below you most of the teams at the bottom I've seen a a performance from them. Right. I'm looking at Manchester United and whoever you play against now they will always have a period in a game. It's just whether they score in that period. >> That's right. And that's a worry for Manchester United because I genu I'm looking who you got coming up next now. At Athletico Madrid, you got it looks like you got no Luke Shaw >> and KBY >> and no KBY. So you're thinking, okay, that's going to be difficult. I'm telling you now leads away. I watched leads at the weekend against my team. They are such a good team. Well coached, good energy, physical. >> I wor about any team at the moment. >> Yeah, I I don't And your next three next four I'd probably say Atletico Madrid Champions League tough away. Leads away tough. Como away tough. I don't Stop. Como ain't tough. >> What? Have a laugh. Look, even look, even your man, you're having a laugh. >> Go on then. >> Como. No, no, listen. Como, right, have won four of their last six >> against two. Name teams. >> All right. Napoli away from home. >> Yeah, but Napoli without McTominay. A big difference. >> Okay. [laughter] Uh, they beat Genoa. They beat Lipick. >> I don't know Italian football. >> All right. Lipick in the Champions League 4-1. Karma >> going after Ko. >> Uh, so after Como, you then got Bulma for M. Now that's the one you've got to go. Can't I can't. >> But even them, they've [clears throat] got they've got a little bit of sack about them. >> I do feel for you because I just think you think they're better than what they are. >> No, I don't now. I don't know after that. I thought I thought we were better than I saw. >> No, I think >> we are. We are awful. >> Where's that United fan going to call back? Cuz you said to him, "Make sure you call back Monday when we smash them 4-1." >> I accidentally sat on the blocked button. >> No, I hope I hope he calls back. >> A couple of >> como. Oh, got it. Como out. >> Was it was his name? Oh, no. James has called Go to apologize. I apologize. >> I think it might have been James. >> No, he's a Spurs fan. I'll apologize. I don't mind. We were so bad. >> So bad. >> If we if we stay with him, I don't know where the next win's coming from. >> I'm worried about your goalkeeper now as well, you know. And I really liked him. >> What's wrong with him, >> mate? First of all, we need to give them the first one. >> Playing out from the back. I don't I mean that's that's orders from the manager. Why our back four by the way? Oh, Martinez. What's happened to him? >> I know, but I don't know why he's trying to get into a physical altercation with with Salanki who's about 6'4. Do you >> think Luke Shaw was lucky to stay on? >> No, I think it was the right decision. Yeah. Yeah. >> I know he orchestrated it and I hate the kind of howery but >> wow. >> Do you think Carrick will last the season? >> No. If it continues like this. Do >> you think it will last Christmas? >> Depends how if he gets smashed in the next three. No. Cuz the feel good. I mean they'll bo at the weekend. >> I feel for him as well. I like Michael Carrick. >> Uh you can boo if you want or you can phone me up and tell me no, you've got that completely wrong goal thing. He needs time. Uh either way I need to hear from you. You can pick up the phone. My switchboard is waiting for your call. We will of course be talking about Man City and Liverpool. That's the big one at five. But we'll start today. >> So, a lot of people asking me about my fit on Sky, the jumper. >> It's from be honest. >> I thought you could have done better. >> Shut up. >> No, no, no. I looked at Red. >> He's got the dark color. Yeah. >> And I thought he looks good. Yeah. >> And I looked at Benty and I went, "My M, what's M?" And I went, "Why you shaking your head?" I went, "I just think Benny could have done better." >> No, I made a jumper. Anyway, it's from um >> No, no, no. It's not from anywhere. It >> is from M&S. [clears throat] Look, people look By I dropped you a >> also disappointed with you. trainers. >> Yeah. >> All white, man. >> No. Why don't you go like Travis or something? >> No. I've done it before. I haven't got anything. >> I haven't got sh of the world. All white's fine. Um Hey, Ch. What? Nine out of 10 with that. [laughter] Uh M&S is from >> I bet you didn't. >> I did. >> There's no way. Okay. >> M&S [clears throat] is from >> autograph. I just thought you could do better. So boring. >> What a Kelly looked great as always. >> What color was What color was the jumper I was wearing? >> It was It was a cream. It was a light color. It was a light color. No, it wasn't. What color was it? >> Plum sleeve. Got a plum in it. >> The cream. >> It plum. What color is plum? >> That purpley. I see my lover. >> My telly fix. >> Black and white don't work. You can get color TVs now. You know, [laughter] >> plum. Cream. >> Why would you wear plum? >> Beautiful TV. >> No, you look like a plum. >> No. Honestly, he thought I was wear a cream jumper. >> Are you serious? It was it >> it was plum. >> I need I'm color blind. I'm disabled. Don't mock me. Oh, I see. That's where you're going today. Is it? Uh, let's take your calls on does plum go on Sky Sport. >> Hey Goldstein, you said Tielemans was a quote a steal when we signed him. >> He was a steal >> and he's still rubbish. 03717234. You can phone up to talk about how Bentley looked on the TV or you can talk about Michael Carrick. You decide. >> Should we go to the phone lines? Goldstein needs to apologize, says James. Hello, Jimmy. >> Hello, boys. How are you? >> Good. How are you today? You all right? >> I've been looking forward to this. [laughter] So last week you ridiculed Benty for literally saying Yeah. that you would be shocked if Spurs beat United. It would be >> You misqued me there. Slight misquote. >> No, it wasn't. >> Okay. >> Would never say shocked. >> He said shocked. You said shocked. He said shocked. No, shocked. Or shocked. Wait for Dantic. Shocked. >> I would be shocked. Yeah. If Spurs win, >> you actually you actually said it over over two shows. So I think you really doubled down on it. >> Yeah. No, hold on. I said I'd be shocked if Spurs win. I'd still say that they didn't. >> Sure. However, I think that you owe Tottenham Hotsworth Football Club and the fan base an apology for insisting that you would be shocked. Bear in mind they turned up to Old Trafford. That's right. >> Yes. Yes. We didn't win. We know we can't score goals. We understand. But to have your team booing you off the pitch, James is >> Please. So, what did I said? I'd be shocked if you won. No, but he also said, James, he also said Man United would win 4-1. Remember that? >> I'm just talking about the line with the word shocked in [laughter] it. >> And I said, I'll be shocked if you won. Right. >> Yes. >> You didn't win. >> I understand. >> I'm shocked. You think I should apologize for saying shock? >> I think you should. You still 4-1. >> I think you should. [clears throat] I think you should. I think you should. >> Well, so I'm apologizing for not being wrong. No, I I think I think that you are in this spot where you still believe Man United should be turning over the majority of teams that come to Old Trafford because it's the hope that kills you, right? You you do believe that United should be winning those games. Correct. >> I do think that United should be beaten bottom of the table, whoever it is, when they're down to 10 men and we're one nil up. Yes. >> Right. So, the fact that you're not, does that not realign your expectations? >> No. because you're Man United and you just should be winning, right? >> No, but you've asked me to apologize about me being shocked and I I stand by it. I'd be shocked if you would have won that game. >> Apologize for saying 4-1 then. >> I'll apologize for saying 4-1. I got that wrong. Is that all right? >> Okay. No, I think we absolutely [laughter] >> end of that then. >> Hi. >> Let's speak to Chris Man United fan. Hello, Chris. >> Wherever you are, >> how we doing boys? You good? >> Good man. How are you? >> Yeah, great. I feel like I've got the monkey off my back now. I've sold my season tickets, me and my mate who go every week. >> Have you >> I can't I cannot sit there and watch that dross anymore. I'm not a deluded football fan. I actually know football and I know when players are not trying and they those guys have given up for weeks. >> Wow. So >> we we sat sold the season ticket. Yeah. We were sat in a bar before the game and my mate didn't want to go. I had to convince him to go because he knew it was going to be rubbish. We thought we were going to lose. We get there first 20 minutes. I said, "Right, if you're rubbish after 20 minutes, we're going to go 20 minutes." We didn't put three passes together for the first 20 minutes. I stood up to leave and he pulled me down and said, "We've got to stay till halfime." We stayed till halfime and then we just went, "I can't do it." So, we went back to Manchester. >> Wow. How much you get for your season ticket? >> Can't tell you that. >> Why? [laughter] >> I made a couple of quid on it, but nothing nothing worth. Do >> you want Carrick? Yeah, absolutely. Do you want Carrick out? >> I don't care. >> Oh, okay. >> The club, it's it's um it's endemic, isn't it? What's going on at that club? It's just like it's poison from the top down. Get rid of Carrick if you want. It won't make a difference. But I do feel like the the players are acting like Carrick. >> Chris, can I [laughter] Are you still a Man United supporter? >> Of course I am. You can't let you don't ever change your team. But I I have I've got two young kids. I've got a busy job. I cannot give them my time. They don't deserve it. >> No. Okay. They don't deserve it. >> Passion. That's passionate at that point. >> Hitting now on the head. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I hear what you're saying. >> I'm glad you are so bad at the moment. >> I'm glad you apologize cuz wow. >> I apologize for the 4-1. Not for saying I'll be shocked. >> May maybe there's an element to truth that maybe you think you are at a level where you're not actually there. >> Me personally. >> Yeah. You like we know you're personally about Manchester United. Like you still put them in a bracket where you think right. >> Well, I I just look like for like right players we got. >> Mhm. >> And we're at home. Spurs hadn't won a game all season. I think I had every right to >> No, but I said to you they're not as bad as you think they are. >> I'd watch them this season. Play well. >> Do you think they beat commentary next Monday? >> Yes. Do >> you think they depends actually because No, the reason why cuz if commentary can wall up Newcastle tonight. >> I don't think they will wall up Newcastle. >> Okay. They even if they win their conference is up. >> Okay. Uh still to come, we'll be asking the Premier League side should refuse to play Manchester City. There's a method to our madness. We'll explain that uh in about half an hour's time, but first it's time for no Googling. We have been talking about Benton Co's red card. We want to know who is the most fouled player in Premier League history. I'll give you a clue. It's a great question. Fouled 821 times in just 300 Premier League games. >> Wow, that's a great one. >> Yeah, >> I don't mean you do you want to guess? >> Yeah. >> Howard the answer to that and of course Man City chat and so much more coming up from five. But uh what have we? Let me just tell you what we got coming up. Benty's EFL corner is now. Are you ready? You prepared for that? You done your homework? >> I was sending it to Joe Early. >> Yeah. Shame we can't talk about the laps. Uh did he score? I turned it off just as the ball dropped to him inside four yards. Did he score? >> Yeah. >> Did he score? He did. Okay. >> Yeah. You can't miss that. Yeah. Anyway, that of course will be uh EFL chat next season when we come back. EFL chat for this season on dry