"YOU'RE THE WORST!" Goldstein & Bent CLASH over Man UTD being the worst team in The Premier League?!
Goldstein and Bent clash over whether Manchester United are already the worst team in the Premier League
The show debates Manchester United’s level after another poor run, with one side calling them a mid-table side and even the worst pound-for-pound team in the league, while the United-leaning host rejects that as overblown. A Rio Ferdinand clip and callers add that United are not title-ready and need to rebuild, improve the squad and spend more wisely before they can challenge again.
- United will start winning soon — The team stood up in difficult circumstances; he could sense quality and confidence in the group, which should help them going forward
- With this squad, United are only a mid-table or Conference League-level side, not an upper-mid-table team — The current squad and performances show limited competitiveness; Carrick did well to get them into the Champions League last season but benefited from one game a week
- Rashford’s performances have not been good enough, so Carrick can be justified in leaving him out — Carrick tried to support him and get the best out of him, but the performances have not delivered
- Leeds have been better than United this season in both performances and league position, so they are currently the stronger side — Their performances have been more convincing and they sit higher in the table
- You cannot say Leeds are better than United just because of early-season form when the two have just drawn 1-1 — The head-to-head did not separate them, so a draw is not proof that Leeds are stronger
- From what he has seen this season, United are clearly better than only Fulham, and even Fulham have looked decent — Other teams have produced more convincing performances, so it is hard to argue United are better than many sides
- Pound for pound, United are one of the worst teams in the Premier League — Their spending and club size are badly out of sync with their current performances
- Calling United the worst pound-for-pound side is meaningless; by that logic Brighton are the best — That comparison produces absurd conclusions and does not prove United are the worst
- United are not a title-winning team right now; they should first consolidate and get back into the Champions League, then build like Arsenal did — They must be realistic about where they are starting from; title contention has to be built over time
- United are a mid-table side until they change most of the squad; FFP and their global revenue are an opportunity, but they must spend wisely — The squad needs a major overhaul; other clubs may have to sell after success because of financial rules, while United have global revenue but cannot waste it
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Uh yes, just one win, one win from seven league games so far for Manchester United this season after yesterday's 1-1 draw with leads Dominic Cav Lewins equalizer leaves Man United 13th in the Premier League table. Michael Carrick spoke to sport after the game and he promised that the wins will come soon enough. It took a lot from Athletico apart from the first minute goal and then when it was 11 v1 11 I thought for an hour we were we were really good in in a tough tough circumstances and the boys stood up to that as well and sometimes that gets lost but it doesn't get lost from us you know that feeling and I could really sense it um around the group the last couple of days and the boys took it into the game as I said there's no hiding place today and um they all stood up to that so that gives us that gives us a lot moving forward you know a bit of quality and a bit of confidence and we need we obviously we're looking to to find wins and Um, we'll get them soon enough. >> It's funny. I like a lot of Man United fans go into a game away at Leads and go, "It's only leadeds not being in the Premier League that long. We should smash them." And then of course you remember what Man United are. >> Reality kicks in. >> Yeah. Apart from the fact we're called Manchester United, that's that's it. That's the only thing that still exists from the Fergie days cuz everything else is just like and and then I watched it and I I thought we scored against the runner player. I thought if a team was going to win it when it got to 1-1, it was going to be leads. >> Just Yeah. I just, you know, you get to a stage, I'm sure you had it a lot with Arteta. >> Yeah. >> In the early days, >> every time he does something, it's a little bit different. You go, what's he doing that for? What's he starting in there? Was he doing that on there? Why is he leaving him on the bench? >> Two eighths in a row. >> Yeah. Yeah. Um, so, you know, was it a better performance for Man United? I don't really know. What did you think of it? I mean, it's probably what Sorry. 1-1 is probably where we are at the moment. the way it leads. >> It's a better performance, but I think right now with the current squad you've got, maybe you are just a I don't I think you're better than mid-table team, right? But and I know M Car did a wonderful job last season getting you into the Champions League. He took full advantage of that one game a week, which is a thing by the way. Some people saying it's not. It is a thing. >> Oh, massive. >> Right. >> Massive. It's not just you're playing one. It's the other big are playing more than one. >> Exactly. Right. So big big achievement getting in the Champions League. But I I look at Man United with the squad that you've got right now, a team that's competing for like conferenc like like that's the level I put Manchester United are at the minute. You look at their performances. I agree with Michael Carrick. I thought you were better against Atletico. You get beat. >> Got away with it against against Spurs who battered you. >> Got away. >> Should have been three-0 down. Yeah. >> Got away with it against Fulham. Deflected goal and Kuna. >> Oh, he counted deflected goals now as getting away with it. >> Oh, but no m get one. That's fine. >> Yeah, cuz three points. You got one. >> Oh, right. Okay. Why mention deflected goal? >> We got away with we got away with it. Deflected. Didn't normally get away with it. >> No, because we won it. So, >> all right. Okay. My mistake. >> Brighton City. So, there's been there's been performances this season where you go and maybe that's just where Manchester United are because we we get it. The recruitment hasn't been great. Certainly defensively when you look at the the back four, the defenders that you've got, the depth, the lack of center forward because Cesco's out. You're playing Embro there who yes, he's doing a decent job, but he's not a center forward. Yeah, Kun is not an out and out center forward. He's better come from the left. Rashford at the minute. I think Michael Carrick, fair play to him. He did everything he could to kind of dampen the noise when Rashford first came back and he said, "I'm going to try and get the best out of him. He's one of our own. He's got great quality. He had a good time." He did all the stuff. He tried everything to get everyone behind Rashford and his performances just haven't been there. So that's why now Michael Car's almost gone. Well, I can kind of see why you you have not been playing because your performances are poor. >> But I think Manchester United a narrow team and you look at the table and I get it. Manchester United in terms of name alone are still they're still that's why we're still talking about them because they're still one of the biggest clubs in the world then Real Madrid they're still in that bracket but when you start looking at the table right you come Man United are currently 13th yeah we go top downwards City better than you Arsenal better than you Brighton are better than you Chelsea better than you Liverpool better than you Brenford right now currently are better than you leads at the minute I'd say with the manager that they've got are better than you because they know >> ex you can't say that it's on all. >> No, but their performances this season tells me they're better than you. Leads. >> Oh, no. If we've just played them, >> you can't say they're better if it's a draw. I mean, >> we had 90 minutes and we came out level. >> They've looked more impressive this season than you have. >> I say they're better. If we we just played them, it's 1-1. Your argument they're better doesn't hold much. >> No, it does cuz they're seventh and you're 12th, 13th. >> Yeah, we just played them one. >> Had a better season so far. Who looks better? >> No, no, no. I just want one name. Who looks better this season? Lead Manchester United. >> Same. >> They look the same, do they? You're saying leads look the same as Man United. >> You said Leads are better. Leadeds might have had a better start to the season. They're not better. We played them at one. >> Leadeds look better than you this season. >> Okay, we disagree. >> All right, Everton. >> Sorry. Are you saying then we we did well to get a draw then if they look better? >> Yeah, you did. Cuz I expect you to go to Le and get beat. >> You're telling me le You're telling me >> I'll be honest. I don't like your tone. >> No, you're telling me Man United look like leads this season. Seriously. >> I tell you what, >> that Man United look equally as impressive as Leads. >> Leads look impressive. >> Give it a laugh. >> You picked them to go down. No, that's at the season start obvious reasons. But I quickly I quickly backtracked and I said they won't go down. But they look better than you do than you. >> But you said they're better than us. We played them as one all. >> Okay. But still they're they're better. >> They're brighter better than you. >> Well, currently no cuz we're above them in the league. >> Oh yeah. You emphasize in certain words. It's so rude. >> Yeah. Honestly, I can't believe. >> Are we betting switch >> currently? Right now >> we smash them 52. >> No. >> All right. So results against another team. They go out the window. It's purely just league. I'm looking in totality of >> Spurs the worst team in the league. >> Uh no they're not but they currently are making your mind up if the league count for anything. >> My point is Spurs at times this season have looked good. You haven't >> the leads. >> We we have second half against believable second half 45 minutes. >> So So the league t doesn't lie unless it's Spurs. >> Wait wait wait wait. >> That was a joke. I was no you know no you're basing Manchester United start. But hey Joe, 45 minutes is >> you know let me ask you let me ask you this. What's more important? Is it league standing or how you perform against another team? >> I think it's performance in in totality up to this point. The seven >> Tottenham performance they haven't won a game >> pound for pound. >> Who's better? May not or Spurs >> currently now Manchester United. But you've looked they've looked I have seen more from them in terms of certain performances than Manchester United. You can't you watched it you watched um Manchester United. >> I don't like this witch hunt. No, you watch Manchester United against Spurs. Who should have won that game? >> What? >> Who should have won that game? >> They should have won it. >> And they're wrong. >> They didn't. They didn't. And they're wrong. >> They didn't for a reason. They're not good enough. They haven't got a goal scorer. >> Okay. Right. >> You can't say who should have won it and because the answer is them. >> Okay. I'll give you an obvious one. Are are you better than the whole city right now? >> I just don't know really. >> No. Answer the question. >> I'm better than you. That's >> No. No. Are you better than the whole city right now? >> Where are they in table? above you just are they are you betting hole? >> Yes, we are betting hole. >> Brilliant. Honestly, >> was Spurs the worst team? >> Did they beat you? >> Did they beat you? >> Brian beat you. >> Okay, but fair enough. >> Spurs the worst team in the Prem. >> I don't think so. >> Well, make your mind if the league table does make it. So, he doesn't. >> I'm saying hole. I've looked better than you this season. >> Okay. Name the teams we're better than. >> Go on. >> Fulham, >> right? >> There you go. >> That's it. Yeah. Man United only better than Fulham. >> From what I've seen. >> Well, social have a day. >> And you know what? even talking. What are you talking about? D. Sorry. The only team Man United better than in the Premier League. The only is Fulham. >> No, but Fulham. Is that right? Is that your >> Okay, go. Finish. >> There's even an argument. They've looked decent, by the way. Fulham. >> Okay, finish. >> Okay. No, you you >> I'll ask a question again. I'll ask the question again. >> Take no pundit. This question is important. >> You go on Sky Sports. >> Yeah. This question is important. You tell me this season. >> I haven't got my glasses on. >> Well, put them on then. >> I don't want to put them on. Who you've been better than this season? >> Why can't you answer mine? >> I think I'm answering my own question. I think Manchester look poor Arbaloa is struggling but they were better at the weekend. >> But you take the league table. >> No, I don't like using your iPad. >> I'm not using No, I need you. >> I need you to go for the league table. >> You too. That's why I'm asking you the question. >> No, but you're a Man United fan. >> No, but you're you're a Man United hater. >> No, I'm not. I'm being honest. >> Okay, read the teams out. You think Man United are better than in the Premier League? >> Well, I've seen this season, right? >> Yeah, I'm struggling. I think pound for pound you're the worst team in the league. >> You don't actually believe >> pound for pound for what you spend and the size of your club forget for pound. >> No, but that's right. >> Yeah, but pound for pound Brighton are the best then. >> Okay, go with that. >> That doesn't mean anything. >> Third in the table. >> Yeah, but it doesn't mean anything. Just tell me who Man United are better than. >> I mean, Villa are 12th and they're betting. Okay. Are you better than Villa? >> No. >> Oh, okay. Fair enough. You've got Palace behind you. You think you're better than Palace? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Do you? >> Um, possibly. But I won't say I won't say it's a given but possibly. >> Okay. So yes, >> you're a better >> I don't know why you said that flippantly. >> Okay. >> Oh yes I do. >> Is that better if I sing it to you? >> Commentary. >> Yes. >> Okay. But what performance have you put in that makes me think you're better than commentary? >> What performance have they put in? >> Back to back wins. When the last time you back to back wins, >> right? Ar No, I can't argue with that. >> No. When is your back? Give me your backto-back wins. >> I'll give you a backhander. I give you back I give you back to back defeats >> if you want. >> Well, tell me answer my question. >> What I think poundfor pound and Manchester United are one of the worst teams in the league. >> Oh, one of moving. It's like Bitcoin your answer. >> Yeah, but I mean I might if you tell me something though. Tell me something. >> Tell I read that team's Man United are better than. >> All right, cool. Make sure social clipping this up. >> No, no, they clipped yours already. It's already gone out. >> The speed of social that'll be out about >> right. Man United are better than Well, I have to put >> No, go top downwards. >> I am. >> Okay. >> I have to put I'm not even looking at the top nine. Top nine. >> I'm not looking at the top nine. Yeah, we're not better than top nine. >> Ipsswitch. We are better than I switch. We played Ipswich. We beat them. >> What does that mean? >> Whole beat you. Speaking English. >> Who beat you? Are you That's a whole better than you. >> Yes, I've just said that. They're above us. >> Okay, so Manchester United are whole are better than Manchester United. >> Yeah, but we're not talking about that. You said teams we're better than. >> Answer that question though. >> Currently, yeah. >> Okay, fair enough. >> Right. Whole better like that. >> Teams that Man United are better than in the Premier League. IPS is one. >> No, I don't think so. >> Well, we beat them 5-2. >> Okay, that's just one lucky performance. Okay. >> Well, it wasn't lucky if you scored five goals. Uh, Newcastle. Yes, we'll bet the Newcastle. >> I don't know if you are >> Aston Miller. No. Palace? Yes. Bournemouth? Yes. Commentary? Yes. Fulham? Yes. Forest? Yes. Sunderland? Yes. Spurs? Yes. >> Well, Spurs battered you. >> It's one minute. >> Okay. But in terms of performance, >> sorry, I've got the wrong number. >> Performance. Performance. >> It's all about the results, mate. >> No, I think there's a level of performance in there as well. >> No. >> Okay. What performance? >> When we played you last season or season before. >> Oh, here we go. And you got And you got beat. >> Yeah. This is exactly what you were talking about. And we were we battered you. >> We didn't batter us. But yeah, you you were betting us. >> It's all about the result. Meant nothing. >> Oh, no. It didn't mean something cuz you came in on that on that Monday. >> You wouldn't have it. >> You were like, do you know what? I think we might win the league this year. >> Yeah, you did. I think we might win the league this year. >> I didn't say that. I didn't say that. >> So, realistically, this season where we are, where do you think Man United will finish? >> Eighth. >> Where do you think we will? >> I mean, I always bet Man United outside the top eight. >> Yeah, we haven't had that bet this season. >> Why not? Well, for that reason >> convenient that >> that's not convenient. >> I think someone in the galler actually said that Manchester United will be our closest challengers. >> Who said that? >> Yeah, top at the back. Yeah, he's making the hand sign. But yeah, back. Yeah. Yeah. >> Why are you naming and shaming people? >> He needs to know. >> I would do that. That's disgraceful, isn't it? That's bullying. Don't upright fan for 45 years. They are the worst team in the league. Brian, one of your own. >> Thanks, Brian. Appreciate that. >> You're not wor Spurs. We've won a game. >> That's awful we've been saying that. 03717234. Who are Man United better than? What a horrible question. >> Have you finished 12th? >> Yeah. >> What happens? >> What do you mean what happens? >> M Carrick. >> Have we won a cup? >> No. Nothing. Just finished 12th. >> Improve the following year. >> 037172. I'm so looking forward to the next part of the show. I can't tell you. >> Latest episode of Rio Reacts is out now on Rio Ferdinand's YouTube channel. He was asked what level Man United are operating at right now. This is what he said. Our aspirations are to be a championship winning team. That's not a doubt. But sometimes you have to be realistic. Where are we starting from right now? Where are we? We ain't a championship winning team. We should be consolidating getting into the Champions League again. That pains me to say that, right? But that's reality. It's like it's like Arsenal all these years ago saying we should win the league. We should win the league. They weren't ready to win it. They are now. They've built towards it. You got to build towards these things. >> But how long But how long is the building though Rio? because >> yeah as long as it took Arsenal four or five years maybe I don't know right but my point is yeah nothing is overnight >> apart from sleep uh reminder you can watch the full episode on the Rio Fern YouTube channel right on the back of all of that let's take your calls I think one of the questions I asked I was under duress I hasten to add was who's who who are Man United better than in the Premier League maybe Joe has got the answer Man United fan hello Joe good afternoon to you good evening >> afternoon gent how are you how's the golfy You know, I'm glad you asked me that. Right. This morning, get this. I played at West Essics. Do you play golf? >> I do. Yeah. >> Right. Front nine 38. >> Mate, that's brilliant. >> Right. Back 9 53. >> That's not so brilliant. >> It's awful, isn't it? >> That is a bit of a shocker. >> I managed to find every single bunker on the back nine. >> Oh, it's one of those days. Sometimes you get the rounds, don't you? Where you don't find them for about two, three weeks or something and then suddenly you get around, you find about four or five. >> It was awful. What do you play off? >> Uh, three. >> Oh my god. Okay. You never find a bunker then, mate. >> Wow. >> I do. Trust me, I do find a bunker. You just um actually I played on the weekend um with a mate at the Veil in Cardiff. >> Okay. >> And I got the worst bunker ever. Uh so six iron off the tea, plugged straight into a bunker cuz the wind drifted across. Tried to put a bit draw on it to keep it away, but the wind was that strong. >> Plugged into the bunker, had to lash a 58 at it. Just got it out. It went into a um into a divot. >> Why haven't you got a 62? Why you not using a 62 to get out of that? >> I've only got a 52 and a 58 wedge in the bag at the minute. >> You get a 62. >> I've only been playing for 3 years, so I haven't completed my bag yet. The wedge. >> Can I give you some advice? >> Go on. >> Get some Mazuno clubs. Best in the world. >> I was think nah Cleveland's mate. >> Don't be so stupid. Mazuno get you out. >> Everyone knows Cleveland's the wedges, mate. >> No, no. I don't even know what you're talking about. says a zoo, >> right? Talk about United. Honestly, >> do you want should we carry on talking golf? >> Honestly, is that your mate? >> Let's talk more golf. >> Talk about I'm more than happy to talk about golf, but I got a feeling I won't be allowed back on again. I don't talk about United. >> Go on, talk to me. >> I know, boring, eh? But here we are. Um, personally, I think they are a mid-table side. Um, I think we're going to be doomed to be a mid-table side until we actually change the majority of our squad. I think the only thing that is going to work for United with the um is it the FFP rules at the minute? I think that's the only thing that really helps us out at the minute because there's not going to be teams who are building say even Brighton at the minute. They're going to be doing a Newcastle essentially I think where their success is going to cost them and they're going to have to sell players. We have a lot more revenue across the globe so we we will always be able to spend quite a bit on players but we just got to use it wisely mate. But the thing about Brighton is that that's their model anyway to sell and to buy. That's just what they do. So necessarily that won't >> But do you