"HE LOST CONTROL!" Andy Goldstein SLAMS Lamine Yamal's "skill" amid Ballon D'or race vs Harry Kane!
talkSPORT on Saka's form, the Yamal skill debate and Kane's Ballon d'Or case
The show first discusses Saka's performances for Arsenal and where he ranks in the squad, then turns to the Ballon d'Or race. The hosts debate whether Yamal lost control during his skill and discuss how Kane's goals compare with PR and style in the award narrative; the takeaway is that Saka is still underrated but not necessarily Arsenal's most important player, while Kane is elite but loses out on buzz.
- Saka needs big targets like scoring two or three goals a game to become his best version — Saka wants to be the best version of himself; to get there he must set big objectives, work consistently, keep going when it does not work, and he has the ability to do it
- Saka has looked sharp this season and is better than the version who scored seven Premier League goals last season — He made 31 Premier League appearances last season and seven goals is below his level; this season he looks sharper and hungrier
- Madueke is not good enough and creates almost nothing; Saka made an instant impact off the bench — Last night showed the difference in levels: Madueke struggled again as a starter, while Saka changed the game almost immediately
- Saka is top drawer and the doubts about him are unfair — He constantly holds the ball under pressure from two players, finds the pass and carries Arsenal up the pitch; despite winning England Player of the Year twice, people always look for reasons to doubt him
- Saka is not Arsenal's most important player; Declan Rice is first, David Raya second, and Saka maybe third — Rice is clearly number one, the goalkeeper David Raya is also hugely important, and Saka is in the top five, perhaps third
- Lamine Yamal actually lost control of the ball during that piece of skill — The ball went too far in front of Yamal and bounced back off the defender's knee; the skill before and after was great, but Yamal only got to the second bit because the first bit went wrong
- Yamal did not lose control — The defender got a touch and the ball ricocheted back to him, but he still had control of it; it was not a loss of control
- Kane is underrated because he does not rack up assists, but his passing is just as impressive — The dinked ball in behind for Diaz was brilliant; defenders were backpedalling and trying to head it, and it dropped just behind them
- PR and style matter a lot in the Ballon d'Or race; Kane is top class and should win, but he is not as "sexy" as Yamal, which puts him at a disadvantage in the narrative — Kane's two goals, one a penalty and one a header, got far less discussion, while Yamal's skill clip spread on social media; Kane's game is fundamentally perfect and down the line, but he lacks Yamal's flashy skill and "sexy football"
Andy Goldstein & Darren Bent get into a heated debate over the Ballon D'or race, with Andy maintaining Harry Kane is clear of Lamine Yamal right now and slating Yamal's "skill" against Galatasaray in the Champions League... Subscribe: https://youtube.com/c/talkSPORT 🏆 Ready to win? Check out the latest prizes at talkSPORTwin.com Enjoyed this YouTube video? 😍 🖥️ talkSPORT's Website: https://talksport.com/ 📲 talkSPORT's Twitter: https://twitter.com/talkSPORT 📷 talkSPORT's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/talksport/?hl=en 👤 talkSPORT's Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/talkSPORT/ 📱 talkSPORT's Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@talksport ? 🔴 Download the talkSPORT app HERE! - https://talksport.com/apps/ 🔎 Want to see if you feature on our YouTube channel? Check out our Best talkSPORT callers playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFVMnSsi04LGLa9pS9xDvme-Gjmlu2 talkSPORT PremierLeague
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All right, let's have a quick word on Arsenal, shall we? 3-0 winners over Liil last night with Timber, Eza, and Sacka all scoring in the second half. Before the game, Arteta set Sacka the challenge of trying to score two or three goals per game after a bit of a slow start to the season. He spoke to the media again after the game and said he was pleased with Saka's performance. >> Yeah, after the press conference, I went, he was in the massage table and I said, "Bukay, I just killed you in the press conference. Good luck tomorrow." Uh, he was laughing. He knows me. We he knows that we have discussed these kind of things and and he takes it because he wants to be uh the best version of himself. In order to do that, you have to put big objective and and challenges and and and try to reach them by working and be consistent and when it doesn't work, keep going because he has ability to do it. Uh four goals in nine games for Sacka this season, but he has come in for a bit of criticism for his performances. What have you made of him recently? >> I thought he's looked quite sharp this season if I'm honest. There were times last season where he maybe wasn't at his his his best. Um I mean but even I mean he played a lot of games last season but still se seven in the Premier League for someone like Sack three in the Champions League. He's better than that. Seven goals in the Premier League. He is so much better than that. Like you know what I mean when you look at previous seasons. >> Was that last season? Last season >> he was injured wasn't he? >> I mean he still made 31 appearances Prem and so you know seven goals he's better than that. He's a lot better than that. >> Made 31 Prem appearances. >> Yeah. >> Okay. I thought he had missed more. >> Yeah. But no. Yeah. It's quite last night was was a clear indication about how there's levels. So Madwei obviously started struggled again >> offered any I know I know he had a lot of people going not waxing lyrical but I mean the pass to to Yuri Timber for his goal I mean it was a passing side it was the touch and the finish which was the special part about that goal but Madwe not good enough not going not really creating anything. Saka comes on, it's an instant impact. But I think a lot of the work that Saka does as well goes unnoticed because the amount of times Arsenal players will give him the ball when he's got two people on his back and he manages to hold on to it, hold someone off and then last minute find the pass. I mean, he he literally takes us up the pitch, he holds on to possession. I think he's top drawer. I really do. But for whatever reason, >> people are always looking for reasons to doubt him, whether it be for I remember when it was the last was it the last Euros maybe. Every single time there was a the one where Cole Palmer scored in the final that particular tournament >> people talking about we need to change something the performance ain't be good enough is get Sakar out get Sakar out it always seems to be a kind of a a vendetta against him >> I think the get sack out and I remember that I think I think it was more >> get Palmer on rather than get and that's the position you want to play >> the guy's won England player of the year twice >> I know yeah >> it's crazy so he um but no for Arsenal he looks sharp he looks hungry um >> is he your most important player >> I don't think so >> who is >> I think Declan is is certainly number one I think. >> Where's Where's Sacker on that list? >> You've been in the top five. >> Who's two? >> Be a goalkeeper. >> David Ry is so important. >> Yeah, I'd agree with that. >> Oh my goodness. Saka >> two center arms or one of them. >> Do you know what Gabrielle not being there but then this you know last season Gabrielle because of the set plays the goals. We haven't scored a goal from a corner yet. >> Have you not? >> No. Not one or from a set play. >> That is very bizarre. >> Yeah. So but Nabra is important but no but maybe Saka at three then. Yeah. Three. >> All right. Right. But let's turn our attention to the balloon door because the two main contenders both had good nights in the Champions League last night. Harry Kane scored twice as 10-man Bayern Munich drew 3-3 away at Viking. Meanwhile, Lamin got two assist just two assists as Barca won 4-1 away at Galatasro with the second assist getting lots of attention on social media for a nice bit of skill. Although the ball does appear, not appear, the ball does bounce off the defender. He goes back to your before he sets up Anthony Gordon. >> I mean, let's start with that piece of skill, right? That's lovely. >> Now, Harry Kane scored two. No one's talking about two goals. >> It was one one was a pen. >> And everyone What about the other one? >> It was a header. >> And everyone is talking about this bit of skill from Laminia M where he lost control of the ball. >> No, [clears throat] he never lost control of it. >> It came off the defender. >> He never lost control of the ball. >> Oh, he meant to do that. >> No, the defender got He didn't lose control of the ball. Defender got a tow in. Good. And it ricocheted back to him, but he didn't lose control of it. >> Oh, I think he lost control. I think it went a little bit too far in front of him and it bounced off the defender's knee and come back to him. >> No. Come on. Yeah, I get it. >> Look, the bit of skill before that was great and the bit of skill after was great. Yeah, >> but he only managed to get to the second bit because the first bit mucked up. >> I get it. I get it. Listen, I know. But >> no, no, no. I am deadly serious. >> I know. >> Goes for what do you call that? The robot. Is it the >> He pretended to do it and then just come out of it. That's lovely. >> I lost control of it. >> I mean, okay, listen. I enjoyed the skill. You didn't, but even his assist for uh Lopez for the header. Oh my god, the cross. >> That that ball was unbelievable. But Kane's stunning >> was Kane. I know Kane doesn't get the credit because he doesn't do the assist. I think it's Lyma gets it puts it across and Diaz scores. But that honestly the dinking behind from Harry Kane. It's one of them which I don't know if it makes it look better because everyone's backpedaling and trying to head it and it just drops behind them as opposed to if everyone held the line he'd put it in there. >> Yeah. >> But Harry Kane right now I mean they said on commentary when I was I was watching the highlights and stuff that he's chasing a record but I don't know what record this is. I'm trying to find out. I met Kevin Ash know when he >> Well, Harry Kane's chasing it. >> Yes. in in commentary. >> Yeah. >> They said it's record chasing number nine for Kane and then he scored 10. But I didn't >> ask our listener. They know more than anyone. Ask a listener. They'll text you. >> Can someone please tell me what the record Harry Kane is chasing? Please. >> How are we Darren? We were >> perfect. Go ask him. >> Kev, talk to me. So this record that Harry Kane's got. Um Oh, he's chasing. What? What is that? >> It's just a recording. That's just >> Why you playing Kev then? I thought Kevin was only joking. Hi Kev. >> How are we Darren? We Well, >> all right. Here we go again. Kev, talk to me. Record. What's he chasing? >> Just just recording Jack's plan. >> Oh my goodness. Jack, why you keep doing that to me? >> Our listeners will know. That's why they're the best in the world. They'll come up. While we're waiting for them. No, don't. Our listen will get it. While we're waiting for them to to let you know, uh, staying with Lamin got a lot of attention on social media after that game last night. Galatas Rafael Leia also said he should win the balloon door. How how big a part does PR play in this Balloon race, do you think? >> Yeah, of course. Um, you know what? See, honestly, we love Kane, right? This is the first these are the two things. First one comes in. He whoever this is didn't put a name. >> Don't read negative. >> It thinks goals scored after turning 30. So it might be that I don't know yet. Okay. You said don't read the negative ones. Okay. All right. >> Nothing negative about Harry. >> All right. But no. Um >> unbelievable player. >> Yeah. PR is massive. But also as well you'll get where I'm coming from with this. Right. So Harry you'll get where I'm coming from with this. Right. So Harry Kane we know um oh most Champions League goals over the age of 30 and then someone's put nine games in a row. >> We need Well, [laughter] we've actually got Kevin Aard. We've just >> How are we Darren? We Well, >> we told him about that. He's real. >> Is he? Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Kev, talk to me the record. What is it? >> No, we we just played the same. >> Why you keep saying that? Get Kevin on the phone. >> He's busy. >> But >> oh, that's me. Hello, mate. >> Hello. >> Right, go on. >> What is going on? Someone's put [gasps] here Harry Kane record is most Champion League goals over the age of 30. >> Okay. We don't know. We need Kevin. >> Yeah. Right. So, and you'll get where I'm coming from. >> Just tell Joe we got my half for tomorrow. So, less than 24 hours till we get that answer. >> I'm texting I'm texting Kevin a break. >> Yeah. >> Um, >> you'll get what I mean by this. And this is no disrespect or nothing. Right. Harry Kane has been amazing this year but coming. >> He's a he's a for me he's top top top. Right. I mean I would still my guy but if you said Kane I got no argument with that. Right. But you know when you say Harry Kane's won it, people go, "Okay, fair enough." But you know like the sexiness of the the award >> saying Kane's not sexy. >> But you know what I'm saying? People go you go mean you might go >> I wouldn't. >> Yeah, you would because >> I go like this. I go must be >> No, but you you honestly you know >> only only because Kane's English and we English if if we were Spanish and Kane on it. Do you not think we'd do the same? >> I don't know if you would like if you go or your mal people go oh sexy but Kane you just go okay >> Beckham you know what I'm saying though? It's got a little but Kane you go even though by the way I think he should win it. >> You're saying Harry Kane's not sexy >> but the like a sexy winner. >> You saying I'm a little bit sexist. >> Oh why am I sexist? But I >> if Harry Kane was like a model he'd win it. Would he? >> He's not. [laughter] >> And you're saying you think that honestly makes difference. >> I think it does. >> If Kane looked like uh who's the male model who does all the adverts? >> David Gandandy. >> If he looked like David Gandandy, right? You think he'd win the battle? >> Maybe because the maybe No, no, not so much as looks. I'm just talking about the like not even so much the looks, it's more the way that they play. You've dug yourself such a big hole >> because Kane is like fundamentally perfect. Like everything is down the line. Whereas not lea did last night. >> He's like sexy football he's playing. >> Yes. Like Kane scored unbelievable goal. >> He has but he's not there's there's none of that like last night when me and you were arguing about Lemma's skill. That type of sexy bit of skill will get him like will get him that. >> Kane has scored goals that takes your breath away. >> I know that. But would you get what I mean by when I say sexy appointment? >> No, don't get hate Harry Kane. Can you describe? I'll tell you I'm going on my own to Germany. >> I can mate >> from five. We are going from 5:00 we'll be talking about Liverpool's 100 million pound mysteries and also we'll be asking the question when£100 million plus transfers readiness. >> What you make my job very I'm trying to land a plane and you're looking out the plane window waving at you. Uh >> Mbappe outscore Kane in World Cup and Champions League. Andy, you're the biggest Kane backside kisser out there [laughter] in the running. Keep the pain [snorts] >> and bring Beckham into any topic as usual. >> Go Becks. Uh [laughter] at 5:00 we're talking about 100 million pound plus players. Do they work? Which one of them have worked and which haven't? And also if they don't, why? 03 717234. We'll clear the switchboard for you right now. So if you call now, you'll be first at 5. >> How are we chaps? Well,