"DISGRACE!" Jason Cundy DESTROYS Man United after their 4-1 loss to Como in the Champions League!
talkSPORT: Man United savaged after 4-1 Como loss as Carrick's future and board failings dominate
The show reacts to Manchester United's 4-1 Champions League defeat by Como, with hosts, guests and callers tearing into the team, Michael Carrick and the club's leadership. Bruno Fernandes and Carrick publicly disagree over tactics and running, while the panel predicts Carrick will be sacked if United lose to Bournemouth and debates whether a change of manager would fix deeper problems.
- Manchester United are an absolute disgrace and City have swapped places with them; United are embarrassing the Premier League in Europe and Manchester while City walk through games. — He cites United's results and performances and says City now look comfortable, reversing the hierarchy he had long accepted.
- Carrick has to go; his CV is not good enough for the Manchester United job and this is Solskjaer all over again. — He says United are one of the biggest clubs in the world, Carrick's previous record does not justify the job, and the performances are proving it.
- United should bring in Antonio Conte because he has won the Premier League and FA Cup and has the personality to call out underperforming players. — He points to Conte's Chelsea record, says half the squad do not deserve to be on the pitch, and argues the dressing room needs to be shaken up.
- Conte is not a long-term solution; United's real problem is the board, with Jim Ratcliffe also to blame, and changing manager without fixing that is just a revolving door. — He says Conte might get short-term results but would leave the same problems behind, so the core issue must be sorted first.
- If United change manager, Eddie Howe is a better option than Conte: he works within a budget, improves average players and is tactically better than Carrick. — He argues Conte would deliver only a short-term bounce and cost about £15m a year, while Howe is a more long-term plan suited to United's current budget.
- The tactics were too passive: United should not sit off and let Como have so much of the ball, and the responsibility lies with the manager and staff. — He says the decision not to press man-to-man left space, gave Como confidence and made United chase the ball; he wants braver high pressing.
- You cannot pin it all on tactics; if players do not run and do not run back, no system will win games. — He says United did press man-to-man in the second half and still conceded from it, so the bigger issue is running and recovery.
- Bruno's comments are already a public challenge to the manager and Carrick's sacking is inevitable; he is unlikely to last until the November international break, and if he does he will be sacked then. — He says the captain questioning tactics shows the mood has turned; he had backed Carrick but now it looks beyond repair.
- United's players do not want to run or track back, and the team should be doing proper work on the training ground rather than go-karting and paintball bonding. — He saw no desire in the performance and thinks the club is prioritising gimmicks over the basics they are paid to do.
- United's recruitment and contract management are a disaster: they buy cast-offs from other clubs and hand out ridiculous contracts. — He says Jason Wilcox's record does not command respect, rival clubs are laughing at United, and the big contracts from Di Maria through Sanchez, Pogba, Sancho and Rashford have not worked.
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All right, fans, Here we go, with the main event of the evening. Good evening and welcome to the Sports Bar and Talks Farm, Jeremy Haram over there, Jackson Michael, carry my pain, Carson 92, you lot, you lot what's going across on you, Rick Astley, Rick Astley, can you remember Rick Astley, you always don't want any liver beating Frank the Red I'm driving back to Charles, you suddenly picked the pink rats and a packs of grass, and you've got it, and you get pumped away at Kobo. Only ghostie! Can you rrrrby ghostie? Can you rrrrby ghostie? Junior robbers, nice machine there, we have junior Laurie McElroy, fles- No, me, honestly Can you hear me how to football? You're watching with that Loverbean China White, the The Leaky Root, Roy Keane, Alex Trump, Olly Merz. Can you hear me crooky? Can you hear me mercy? Olly Merz, do you have my shot with No wins in seven. Is Michael Carrick done? Bruno Fernandes, he's not held back as well. He's come after the gaffer. It's all going off. How good was Nico Paz though? Spurs should have signed him years ago. What a player. Arsenal fight back for a point in Munich. Right, can anyone beat Pierschido? Kravitzkelia is out for the season it looks like. So does that give Arsenal a really good chance? Villar he's past viking uh ross barkley getting on the score sheet making a bit of resurgence get involved in the show though want to hear from man united fans the first time you've been able to have your say oh three seven one seven double two double three double four Wow Hello mate, you're right. I help me out. You need to go the other way Now it looks like you're just about to rob a bank. What's I know you go the other way. That's What's that then, mate? Yeah. It's only going in his eye. What's this, James? I don't know, mate. What's this? He's not happy. He looks sad. He looks... No, no, No, stop with these stupid masks. Poor old Nevs. Poor Nevs. Poor Nevs, mate. How are you? I'm all right. Honestly, watching May United earlier, wows Duff! What a car crash. They are duff. What a car crash that club is. No, mate, they're gone. I told you they'd banter FC. The thing is, Man United, they're going down the motorway. There's no brakes and they keep hitting cars. And they keep smashing the because somehow they've managed to trundle it on, and we know where this is going to end. They're going to hit a truck. Carrick is still at the wheel. No brakes. No brakes, Jay. That's a great analogy. No brakes. They keep bumping into cars, smashing, Smash it in that team Smash it in the Como Mate Mate, Como Good team though, mate Como, right They were good, mate Sesk Doing bits Don't not Taz, what with him? What's wet him? Nico Paz, not Taz. No, not Taz, Paz. I'm talking about the other guy that played. Nico Paz, mate, he was out on fire. On fire, by the way. He's a unit as Well, I'm a good player, mate. Why didn't you not sign him? He did want to come to us, did he? I don't think. We tried. Couldn't get it over the line. I find that quite hard to play. Well, why would he? He's playing in the Champions League for Como. Do you know what I mean? He's living the life in Italy yeah he's a loan from Real Madrid mate imagine leaving anyway we move on from you lot disgrace in London the biggest disgrace at the moment Manchester City have shown Man United the way to go forward Man United they've swapped places since the 90s right Man United They cheated No no no that's not been proven yet Manchester City have swapped places literally now this is now for me this is definitive. Manchester City have swapped places with Man United. I've always said the biggest club Manchester is Man United, right? And it was still we. But Manchester City, what they have done... Oh, you're saying Manchester City are bigger than Man United now? No, no. What I'm saying, they swapped places where it's always Manchester United, Man United. You look at me, Man United are disgracing the Premier League in Europe and they're disgracing Manchester. Man City just walk through games. Bang, bang, bang. Off you pop. Off you pop. Men United, mate They are an absolute disgrace No, they are a bit guff Swap places What's happened to them? I thought he'd done alright last season I thought Carrick was the answer No, he's not the answer, mate He ain't the problem either, He's not the answer But he ain't the problem I don't know Bruno Fernandes Come out It's not another good look again It's like every day No, he was Effing Jeff And we left the pitch When he could see if Throwing his arms out Given all that He weren't happy with the tactics and sitting back, I don't know what Well the problem you've got I think it was 3-0 when he pulled him off When you pull off Fernandes and you're 3-0 down, that tells me he's now saving him for Brighton. Sorry, no, saving him for Bournemouth at the weekend. That tells me he's saving him for Bournemouth. Are we getting to the point where it's unsaveable? unsavourable at the minute. I feel like it's, I feel like there's an international break coming up in November, right? And I thought he might get gone then. It's two big dates. He might get gone now. It's two big dates, right can he make halloween when's that 30th right yeah that's not that far away i know but can he can he get to halloween then the next why is halloween a big it's not really a big date that's irrelevant in the football calendar he gets Halloween right next one can he get to bonfire night I don't think Carrick's going over again and then international or break, if he survives that, can he get St. Andrew's Day end of November? These are big dates in the diary, Jay. They're not big dates. They are big dates. Football fans look at these and go Halloween. No one looks at the football diary and goes Halloween big fix today Jay I don't know what I think No no no one does mate No no one does Don't look Bonfire and I go Can I survive I know mate But like St Andrew's day Just talking guff St Andrew's day Can he survive to If he gets to the international break. I don't think he's getting to the international break. I don't think he is. I don't think he's going to make it. So, is he getting past Bonfire night? See, now you're thinking about it. now you're starting to think about it. they played Bournemouth at the weekend. If they get beat by Bournemouth, he's gone. So he's not making Halloween? Well, if he gets beat by Bournemouth, he's gone. No? The thing is, I don't know what the answer is. Hold on. Is he Is he going to get sacked in British summertime or British wintertime, Jay? You're winding me up. I'm not winding you up. You're winding me up, mate. No, no, Jay, no, no, no. We've been on for less than five minutes. You're annoying me like just yeah this is what you do like you just just stop talking crap right it's a date is he going or is he staying well pretty summer time if they get beat by Bournemouth is he getting a sec if they get beat by Bournemouth is he getting a Give me the days, get in the sack and I'll tell you when it's summer time. Mate. The clocks go back, mate. Two o'clock. Do you know what? If you're going to be an idiot, I'll just take calls. Can't win, can I? Can't win. I'm giving you dates. It's a Factual. I know you're giving me dates, but I don't care about the date. Halloween. He's getting sacked at Halloween? Before or after? You just said, is he getting sacked at Halloween? No, I'm asking you. I don't think... If he gets beat by Bournemouth, I just gave you the answer. So he's getting sacked pretty I think he's getting sacked at the end of the week. There you go, he's getting sacked British Summertime. If he loses to Bournemouth, he's gone. Can't lose to Bournemouth. What time of day though? Because British Summertime... Oh mate, let's go to Tom, Man United fan. Tom. I can't win, can I? Tom. Can't can't we? Tom? Well, I've just been told Katy Perry's birthday. Someone please give me Tom. Give me a call. Tom. Can you hear me? Yeah, please talk. I don't want to talk to Kandi. Talk. neither do i make go on look what's going on with carrick is he is he is he gone character's got to go mate you've got to go it's unbelievable the fact that he got the job in the first place right with his cv unbelievable. How has he done it? Sacked by Borough. How can he be the manager of Man United? We are one of the biggest clubs in the world. Cundi. Yeah, Majorna. Cundi, could I come on this show and do your job? now. Can I come and do your job? No, just do it now. You're doing it now. I've got the CV to do it. I've not got a CV to do it. Carrick has not got the CV to manage Man United. And it's showing. It's showing it's Oligan and Solskjaer all over again. Do the job. I'll tell you what I'll do by the way tom oh that's fair i'm gonna sit back you you and tom anchor the show for now just sit back with gary neville mask on it's gonna sit back and let you two carry on it's fine right go oh you're terrible you're terrible like it's but it's not it's nothing that i don't expect i'm expecting to get slapped i expected to get slapped by leads and you got a draw but then i thought all right with it mate you You see the game, we got away with it. Yeah, I know. And then you play Como and Man United get beat. Mate what's going on? I don't understand how all of a sudden you've got so bad as last season. You were right. You got champions league football, right? Yeah, but it's one game a a week donate no i know that i know it's one game a week but it's like every performance now is terrible it's like the players the players are not seeing the the manager's tactics they're not seeing what he's doing is this not the same as solskja is it not solskja 2 point oh because you know you thought you get a manager gets a bit of a new bounce brings the players up you know he recovered over there is he making katie perry's birthday yes or I don't know if they will. I don't think they'll sack him tonight. So he's not making Katie Perrys... The problem you've got, though, Tom, right, is if you do sack him if you do sack him then it doesn't i don't know if it solves the problem it doesn't i know what you mean it doesn't mate but we need someone like for example for me i go conte because Visconte, right? He's won a Premier League with Chelsea. FA Cup with Chelsea. He's got a bit about him. He can call out the players that need to be called out because half of them on the pitch, right? They don't deserve to be there. I'm not saying it's all... You add that with... What's his name? Amorim. Calling out the players and you know what I mean where'd that go they didn't get him anywhere the problem you've got with Conte right is he's not a long-term plan is he he might come in and then you get some results but it's the same thing all over again do you know you're going around in circles 24 Unless you sort out what the core problem is at Man United. It's a revolving door. Yeah, it stops with the board. It's Jim Ratcliffe. He's got to go. He's got to go. Obviously, his gaze has got to go, but it's ridiculous, mate. So, Katie Perry, is she going to have a birthday with with my cat you Barry will see a birthday right and carrot carrot will not be there that's talks about breaking news right there we need we need dates i'm sorry mate i just you know like some sometimes it's hard you know like sometimes right sometimes it's my fault all of a sudden it's my fault you got beat again i can't believe how many times i get the blame is it my fault oh you Oh, mate. When's his birthday? I don't think so, right? But look at the CV. Look at the CV. Don't forget his birthday. His CV. Bournemouth, Newcastle. He kept Newcastle up when they brought him up. Bournemouth, he did all right. But he's not the man for the job. yeah but i don't know mate i think eddie howell is used to working with a budget eddie howell's used to getting the best out of average players which man united have got right now and he gets the most out of them yeah yeah and he's a bit of a longer-term plan i think he's a better character do we but man united me we can't have a no no but you're not man united are you you're not sir alex ferguson man united you're not anymore you know but we should we still on that stage we're still there you're not but i don't know if you are it's disgrace in manchester that's what you look doing now you you're you're embarrassing in Manchester. Men's City are laughing at you. I want the Premier League to laugh at City. Laughing at United, sorry. We are laughing at that. You laugh, everyone's laughing at you. Well, I just think Eddie Howell, for me, is probably a better option than Conte. If you're going to change the manager, I would go for more for an Eddie Howe over a Conte. Conte might come in and get your results instantly and he'd get fans on side and oh yeah we've got Antonio Conte. We're Man United, we're massive. And then six months down the line you'll be in the same position. You're having to pay him £15 million a year. I think Eddie Howe's a better option for you, I do. I think he's probably better tactically as a manager than Carrick. He's English, you know, he knows how to work on a budget. Emanuel, they've got a budget right now and whether you like it or not, you are on a budget. You ain't spending money like you did. And I don't know. I just think he's a bit of a longer term plan. There is no point in use going round in circles again. So Katy Perry is going to be 42 on the 25th, right? Is he going to bring in Katy Perry's birthday? On the 25th of November? No, October! We're days away. We're just days away, isn't it? It's happening on Saturday, right? Is Katy Perry going to celebrate her birthday with Carrick in a job at United or our job? Big day. Hopefully, it will be without a job. And then Halloween comes around. What do you reckon? What do you reckon, Cundin? I've got funny feeling. Bonfire night's a big night for him, mate. Big night for Bournemouth. Big night. Tom, listen, mate. Thanks for your call. I'm going to have to have a well with Cundin, all right? So keep your calls coming in. 03717 223344. You're listening to the Sports Bar on Talk Sport with Also Bet. Bet £10 and get 200 free spins on Big Bass Football Bonanza. Claim yours at toolsportbet .com slash sportsbar. New customers only. Tees and C's applied in PlusGamwareDoc. You are listening to the Sportsman Talksport Me Jamie Hart, Jason Cundey We want to hear from From Arsenal fans, good chance for you this season. But we are talking Man United got slapped by Como. Bruno Fernandes had this to say at full-time on TNT. It's a decision from the staff to not press man-to-man and sometimes leave a little bit of space in behind trying to get the ball in the first moment, to wait for them, to give them the ball. But sometimes when you give too much the ball to these teams they get confidence you know they have so many bodies be behind the ball that make you run a lot get you make people get frustrated and then obviously when we recover the ball the legs are and the brain are much more difficult to make it work. On that then do you feel that tactically it was wrong tonight. You made a decision not to press and that's what hurt you in the end? That's on the manager and on the staff, to see it is not on me. I just said that I think sometimes we have to be more brave on the pressure, trying to take a risk of getting that press very high and making them uncomfortable. Well, manager Michael Carrick responded to those comments from his captain in his post-match press conference. We actually were half-pressed man-to-man the second half and then the conceding go from that and there's a little bit on whatever system you play whatever tactics you play if you don't run and you don't run four and you don't run back you ain't going to win wow this is not looking good is No, it's not a beating. It's not a big beating, that one. You've got your captain coming out and it's almost going against the manager without really saying it. It's inevitable. It's whether he gets to Katy Perry's birthday, Halloween, Bonfire Night on my birthday on the 12th of November. Is it your birthday on the 12th? 12th of November. As he gets to the 12th, right? I don't think he gets to your birthday. That's international break. So that is one of those big changes. I don't think he gets there. And if he does, I think he gets sacked international break new manager comes in that's what it looks like to me at the moment and i was really for michael carrick i know you weren't but i was really for him i like him i think he's decent i thought he'd done all right last season with them felt like the right thing to do but all of a sudden it just looks like oh everyone's kind of just turning against what they're doing well the problem he i think it's just michael carrick's fault no it's not right you know what i mean like yeah the solution we get the problem i don't know what the solution is mate i don't know what it is manchester united so man united as i said earlier manchester you go back to the 90s when manchester united were the club the club not just in england but in Europe, right? They were one of the best clubs if not the best clubs for many years, right? Manchester City were kind of hanging around you know dwindling around a mid-table might have dropped down I can't remember Now, Manchester City United have turned into City and City have turned into Man United. That's what's happened. They have literally swapped seats. Swapped seats. He said that. He said that 15 minutes ago. Is it? Yeah. Just in case someone's getting in the the car just saying again let's go to john he's a man united fan john john boy how we doing all right boys all right john now you feeling well disappointed but not uh not completely too down because once again we've had a performance off this lot it just makes you think it just it just baffles me absolutely baffles me we got players in this team they just don't seem to want to do anything they don't want to run back they don't want to run they don't want to put forward i heard something else earlier say about uh fernandez yeah he'll go and chase the goalkeeper day and then he'll throw his hands around send him to crystal palace says the eagle what he was on about earlier we've got a bloke at the top this jason wilcox he won a premier league with blackburn 30 years ago a journeyman football player where's his experience come from where does he tell us that he's going to identify these players and then when they do identify these players they're all normally cast off from other clubs where all the other chairmen's are laughing at us like that advert years ago with Cadbury smash the United get a wish bill they go oh he must be a good player we'll come and buy him and these other chairmen are all laughing I just go they've paid ain't much for him they're paying ain't much for him they're all manning about the training up there what do they want to do should we take them go-karting for wednesday and then we'll get paintball in on thursday good team bonding go-kart balling why don't you think they should be on the training field first doing what they get paid for i hear plenty united fans and i'm one of them i'm disgusted at the glazers but these lot the amount of money these lot are taking out of the club is it describes we can't win can they so they want to go paintball these ridiculous contracts it all started from that de maria to alex sanchez to paul progba to gayden sancho to marcus rashford and none of them none of them what's wrong with paintballing what's wrong with it john well now half a lot's up with it wouldn't be no good for them lot they'd miss half the targets anyway wait maybe they should do paintballing at the training ground yeah i'm just annoyed i'm just annoyed when i hear you know what you know ain't a bad shout though john john you might be onto something here right maybe carrick is to come in with a