"HAAAS ANYONE SEEN MAN UTD!" Cundy & O'Hara label "MAN UNIGHTMARE" after 2-0 loss Vs Atletico Madrid

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talkSPORT on Man United's 2-0 loss to Atletico Madrid: from 'Man United nightmare' to Carrick and a structural crisis

The show reacts to Manchester United's 2-0 Champions League defeat to Atletico Madrid, with hosts, guests and a United fan caller blaming Carrick, the refereeing, summer recruitment and the club's long-term decline. The conclusion is that United's problems go far beyond the manager: the team lacks identity and direction, Carrick's exit feels inevitable, and changing manager alone will not fix things unless the people running the club change.

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All right fans, here we go with the main event of the Good evening and welcome to the Spongebob Talks 4, I'm Jeremy Harry, I'm over there Jason Gary Neville, can you hrrrrr me nev? You're my showin' hell! I'm a lover-baited Michael! Red must have an old car for the right two! Let it Euro, red card! Let it Euro, red card! Let it Euro, Red card, can you be red card? You almost don't want hell. You never beaten your 22nd Premier League title. I've been smoking you. You never beat 22nd title. You almost don't want hell. You never beat old travel back to your car For sale, the big rat is son of the grass. Can you hear me, big rat? Can you hear me, grass? You're a bitch on one head and never feed with any ghost in front of the red. Punks! Right, shit's getting pushed by, Luke Littler, Luke McCurry, Chippie, Hotel Football, Vic Ha! Ah no, we can't do it again, bro. That's it, Likuru, Likuru... Can you hear me, Likuru? You always have to wear the right hand, Alex, but... I'm here in the The Champions League is back and Men Unite there is back as well menu nightmare menu nightmare that's amazing the menu nightmare i didn't even mean that they've lost two nil madrid tonight could have been more what did he talk about the refereeing again in europe's shambles i thought they'd done okay man united to be fair but it's another loss does anybody actually think there's decent refs in Europe elsewhere Arsenal do what they do they beat little bit of a bore fest but they made it happen some talk about Madawaki and Giochrez though weren't great again get involved in the show can't do it without 03717222324. Hello, mate. Yo. How are i'm all right mate how are you yeah all right all right all good yeah who's that who is that is that neville yeah the big nev the nevmeister nevmeister general mate you You can't, serious. I mean, look, we're talking about that. It's another terrible result. Tough place to go that way. It's not easy there, mate. Tough place. You can't go 1-0 down after 56 seconds, Shay. mate tough place mate what's the best you can do in 56 seconds i don't know mate i had a good start 50 seconds they were all are you lost in 56 seconds hmm don't know spable i'm definitely not mate you know 50 seconds Man United looked alright you know and then they conceded they conceded mate you can't then they looked alright again and then they conceded yeah the red card we talk about the red card I'm not it's never a red I'm not it's never It's never read. I've said this, right? It's never read. Stand by this. The Premier League's got the best refs. I genuinely feel this in Europe. You go across... Everyone forgets if your team's not in Europe. You go across Europe and you get some of the worst decisions ever. I know I felt the red card for Brighton this weekend against Sunderland was a red card. VR didn't need to get involved. Genuinely, it's similar to that to me. Similar to that. Don't get involved it keeps no problem is is it his heaven right he puts his um i know euro euro yeah euro he puts his arm over him right in europe anyway look the truth is the truth is man you know well you can't go one nil down less than a minute and all of a sudden expect away good start that's disgusting it's disgusting guaranteed right one of the last messages your son would have said, don't... Just keep it tight early. Keep it tight 20 minutes. Keep it tight early. I mean, it's the most box standard info that you get every single level, every single game. First 10 lads, keep it time don't if you've got nothing to say you leave the dressing room everyone goes don't give medicine early boys come on that's it isn't it and you've done your job jeez one nil dad bang wow Wow. You know what? In parts of the game, right? They had some chances. They're not great, Man United. I don't know what they are. I'm not really sure what Man United are at the minute. What's the pattern? What's the identity? What are they doing you know where's the club going I'm not really sure I thought there was what was it in Clines last season when Carrick was doing all right and then he gets a job and then I don't know this season just feels about this was I said to you at the man united they felt look i think we all know how this is going to play out i think we all know you sort your hair out mate what are you doing i've got air to sort out that's great no one said that for years no mate but what What are you doing? It's just stuck up. I've had the Gene Nev mask on. Yeah, I know, but come on, mate. You look like an electric shock. Would you rather the Gene Nev mask up? I think you look better with the mask on. Should I put it back on? Yeah, I think you should. Yeah, I'm not yeah that that looks better that actually looks better yeah yeah you gotta sort this air out mate still me heading we all know i i said at the time when he got the job he would they were duty-bound to give it because he actually done a brilliant job. The truth is, he got a team that had one game a week and he played the same team. You wait until the pressure's on. Results don't go your way. All of a sudden there's the fixtures are coming thick and fast as they have done but they won the first Champions League fixture next week they rock up play against 10 men Man City and fluff their lines they're fluffing their lines Jay this is a team and a football club and i said before that he is set up to fail it's not just down to him he is set up to fail no i agree they didn't back him in the summer i said i went mad in the summer over and I couldn't believe many United fans were not kicking up more of a fuss like they send they signed Tillmans who you're not really having I think he's bang average as well to be fair but I think he's alright Santos who's a bench player at Chelsea and they've got the same back four the same back four they've had for years it's like come on you can't give a manager the job and then not back him in a transfer window I'll take that off mate I've got to take it off sort of barn out I saw that mate here's another problem Marcus Rashford has been on loan for two seasons and now he's come back into the fold yeah he went to Villa I went to Barca oh yeah he's been on loan for two seasons yeah and you think to yourself is his character now being said look he's on such a big wage we can't lose it we can't give him away we've got to pay his way might as well keep him there's just so it's just a mess that football club is a mess you know in all honesty over the 90 minutes I actually thought Manchester United recovered very well after the goal there were moments where they should have equal us and Brembo had a couple of good chances but another day puts one of those away the first chance you should score at least hit the target and the game changes but this is Man United there feels an inevitability about what United are and what they look like and how they you know when they want 1-0 down did anyone expect anything different other than a 2-0 defeat minimum? Not really. We didn't, did we? No. How depressing is that for United? How depressing is that that they ended up losing the way everyone thought minimum, by the way. And I'm saying to you, this could be three or four and it didn't turn out the way they put up a fight had chances don't finish them I don't know I think this is a football club that's coming down a cul-de-sac it's going down a a cul-de-sac. We know how this season's going to end. They're not going to progress in the Champions League, right? They might. They might get knockout stages, right? It's just false hope. They're already out of the Carabao Cup. They're going to drop in the Premier League they're going to be mid-table at best and they're going to limp along the Champions League they might get am I not and then you get to like November January December and you think what's this season look like it's inevitable for me that Carrick goes I said this before yeah but as you just said he set up to fail yes and it's not his fault I'm not saying that it's necessarily just down to him what I'm saying is that the club is set up to fail and he isn't, so if you've got I'm going to use Conte in this conversation because Conte is an experienced manager who's dealt with some big dogs, won major trophies, right?, serious dog. Carrick's not a serious dog. He's not. And when in times of difficulty, in times of trouble, when you're a player and you look around everyone else is floundering everyone else is drowning you look around in the dressing room you're going where it's even Bruno now right who's he was the honestly couldn't do anything wrong everything touched turned to gold now now you look at him he's like where's he what's he doing all round that all around the pitch they are they they're drowning and the manager is going to drown with them and it's inevitable that Carrick gets the sack it's just a matter of time we all know it don't we oh no am i being am i being mean no um i've got some quotes here from uh lisandro martinez he's been speaking to amazon prime after the game here's what he's had to say about Carrick. I expect more from our technical director. If you don't change next season, it's a big problem. You keep changing managers, but what about other areas? I can't say more. It was a mirror of our club that performance i mean well wow i mean he's obviously come out and had a dig at the technical director right not so much carrick basically sam who gave the job i mean this the football club is floundering's a very good word actually because they're just you know remember used to do wow that's big statement that from Martinus do you remember you used to have to you know when you were at school when you were in the swim pool doggy paddle well no you just had to stay afloat and you do that in the swimming pool your legs you move your legs doggy paddle no you don't go anywhere you stay afloat it's called doggy paddle no doggy paddle you'd go somewhere dogs move i don't know if you do it's doggy paddle isn't i know you i know what you're on about look at my legs look at my legs i'm not looking at you i can't see your legs they're under the desk you're treading water you're treading water treading Doggy paddle. Okay, you tread water, then he's trying to do doggy paddle, then he's treading water. Man United are treading water. Michael Carrick is treading water. Everyone is treading water. And there's a little bit of doggy paddle in there, and then more treading water that's where the that's that's how i see united right now all right let's go to james he's a man united fan all right james all right jimbo hello lads how you doing all right matey i'm all right jimbo how are you um well i'm just listening i agree with what you're saying um about carrick's up to fail because he wasn't back as you say in the summer they haven't replaced casemiro who's a big been a big loss and i think the signings haven't been good enough same back four you said and I think it's not about Carrick it's a 21 years of decline, gradual decline slowly getting worse and worse and it's been overshadowed the decline's been overshadowed by winning FA cups and league europa league with with marino and he is going to be sacked and nothing will change unless the people who run the club change do you know what's quite damning james right And it's quite scary when you think about it, right? Because Man United are one of the biggest clubs in the world and they dominated English football for a period of time. The drop-off is quite ridiculous because when you think about the biggest clubs in the world just looking at Champions League games tonight Bayern Munich, Barcelona Real Madrid and you go through all of them Inter Milan I don't think they would ever fall this far from the tree you know like and there is a tree a man united meant to be on the top of it but you have fallen so far down the tree that it's like how is How has this got like this? How? Yes. But United are doing a relegation crap this season because you look at Spurs last year with a better squad, and the extra Champions League games are massive. It makes a massive difference the extra matches and you said before Cundi about playing one game a week and they could win those games but they haven't got the squad and they've drawn against the two bottom teams the but been outplayed by the two bottom teams in their last two games. So it's very, very worrying. And I think only if United do get relegated, people might wake up. They're not going to get relegated. They're man united not getting relegated lads james listen look at spurs last year they were they were in the relegation game and spurs but you're man united like come on this doesn't matter no No, it does. It does. You're not getting relegated. It's an unbelievable call. You're not watching them. You're guff against Spurs, but you ain't going down. You're not going to go down. You're not going to go down played totally outplayed by the team that's bottom of the league and spurs are further but obviously they're much better than in bottom of the league but hope played by fulham um i was at the ipswich game where they where they went one nil down they got a lucky equaliser because it which gave a ball away on the halfway line. Jaime Goliath scores that turn out to be an own goal to go 2-1 up. If they didn't get those two breaks against Ipswich... Can I just ask, so you've played Ipswich, whole. Yeah. It's only two in the one, by the way, Ipswich. So they played Ipswich and Fulham, right? Fulham were a bomb. Yeah. You know what, mate? You might be going down. Been outplayed. Been out, I'm telling you, they're in trouble they beat savage forget about how big united hold on i saw i saw sabba good team put them to the sword mate savage yeah sabbath no sabbath all over sabbath 4-0 yeah good you you've actually you ain't played you haven't actually played any real proper decent signs yet i know but like you ripswitch hole tottenham and fulham yeah there's one more in there there's one there's one more men's city you know what maybe you are in a bit of a problem to not tunnel up against brighton oh that was a leak up they don't think they have they don't seem to be able to defend they're singing me like night through butter they just they don't they don't have the squad to play two games a week well that's why he's set up to fail he shouldn't look there's so much wrong at this at this juncture Carrick the problem United found themselves in because Michael Carrick had risen them I think from 11th to up to 15 15 okay 15th to champions league right yeah miracle right yeah but it's not that's the whole point it's not he had he had a very good squad of players you mentioned casemiro you mentioned one or two others. He had Bruno over the season of his life and he got from 15th to one game a week. Sorry, it was 11th. I think it was 15th last season. Don't listen. I'm giving that good info. You're correcting my good Good info. Good info, mate. Sorry, no, you're right. You were right. James, like, cut the pipe down. Anyway, whatever it was, right? You were in a position that felt like it was too... And then the results kept coming and coming. And what? Yeah. He found a formula and found Bruno was in the time of his life He said that No weekend football other than just Premier League No Champions League, nothing else And he got himself in a position where The owners were duty bound to give it and I said to you Jay I'm not giving him the job I'm not giving him the job because this job now needs it's now thank you very much you've done wonderful for us really well I wouldn't even mind just keeping him on it's like some sort of coaching role you needed someone else to take on your night he's done a great job last year but the thing is no I tell you I can predict the future in about eight months time it will be Eddie Howe out. It'll be like, the phones will be calling for Eddie Howe's name or Conte. But the problem you've got, whoever came in is going to have the same squad issues. So whether it's Carrick, Conte, Howe, whoever you want put at the top of that list yeah same rules apply you know what that is lissandro martin has just come out and said you know you're blaming blame the manager but what about the technical director that's that's inside the dressing room by the way that's come out yeah that's a worrying So basically what he's saying is He's hung us high and dry Get your calls in Big night over eight seven one seven