"NOT GOOD TIMES!" Simon Jordan REACTS to Man City's DOMINANCE against Liverpool amid GUILTY VERDICT!

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Manchester City's statement win over Liverpool after guilty verdict sparks debate over Premier League value and appeal process

The video discusses Manchester City's 3-0 win at Liverpool after being found guilty of breaching Premier League financial rules, asking whether the result was inflated by the red card, whether the players should be blamed, and whether City's continued dominance devalues the league. Simon Jordan argues the media must hold City accountable and push for a quick appeal, saying the Premier League is damaged either way; Emmanuel Petit says the players are not responsible and that the case has become slow and political, with callers split over whether the league is devalued.

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There was quite a meeting between two great football clubs, but it was Manchester City who delivered a statement of intent in their first game since being found guilty of breaching the Premier League's financial regulations. As I said, swatting Liverpool aside, 10-man Liverpool by three goals to nil. Emanuel, just before we came on air, we were talking about what was in it for the Manchester City players. Do you feel if you were one of these Man City players, would you feel somewhat spurred on by being labeled the bad guys? >> Well, they are not responsible, right? They're not on the board, you know, they don't take decision, you know, to rule the club. So, they've been paid, you know, to to play on the pitch. So, I can't see why they should be responsible of this mess. So, but returning to the game, I thought they were brilliant yesterday. I never had I never thought that Liverpool could do something in this game before the kickoff because of they were missing important players but as well because Manchester City players have shown so great character for so many years now. So I'm pretty sure that if I was at Manchester City this room yesterday I will I will I will uh try to to show character and personality on the pitch >> even more. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, >> because this motivate you >> because I know that I'm not responsible. I I would try everything to defend my club. >> Yeah. Having said that though, Simon, does the result feel different to you in any way? >> Not particularly. >> Might it in the longer run feel hollow? >> Maybe. >> Does it already? >> But like everything in life, there's a due process. And right now they've been found guilty. They have an appeal. Wherever we think of this, they have an appeal. And so all the hysteria and the hyperbole going around it. First of all, there was never a doubt in my mind that the Man City players would turn up because these these players aren't at Manchester City for by chance. They're at Man City prior to all of this scenario because they were arguably some of the best players in the world with the best elite mentality recruited by the best coach. >> So, there's no surprise to me that they are being galvanized. They are being motivated. There's nothing wrong with being the bad guy in the room at times because it gives you that additional level of defiance which elite mentalities have anyway. So, I'm not surprised. I mean, >> you had that feeling before, have you? >> Yeah, absolutely. That that that game the game changes, of course, with the sending off. So, it makes the narrative that Man City run riot over Liverpool. They didn't. They ran right over Liverpool and Liverpool were down to 10 men. And perhaps they should have done better in handling the situation, but I'm not surprised at all because the way it's being spun out, it's way it's being played internally. Yeah. Is that we are the victims of the establishment. Yeah. We are the people that are being suppressed and pushed down and it's not objective what's being done. We're being targeted. There's a a whole raft of reasons behind it. So these players have to contend with the the mentality that they already have which is we will overcome the adversity. So I think the best game they could have gone to >> was to go to Liverpool first. >> You're not his biggest fan, Simon. >> No. >> But did Moresca impress you? >> Not particularly. >> The the way he spoke pre-match and the way Well, have a listen. Moresca yesterday he impressed a few people. I think uh no doubt many City fans as well just by his tone his demeanor postmatch. Enzo Moresca >> I said during the week uh we need to learn how to deal with the outside noise because of the situation and the noise will be always there. So we need to learn how to deal with that but at the same time we need to try to make uh our noise that is win games like we have done today because at the end of the game I think uh our fans they were sinking so the noise was from us and not from uh the environment >> I mean that media performance from did does it not pressure you >> well that's easy because they just won 3-0 so they're in the I mean he has a built-in excuse quite frankly if he doesn't I mean depends where you set your standards I expect leaders to lead. >> And so in a situation where you've got unequivocal support, the battle is not with you. You're not the bad guy. The owners are. >> You've got a job to do and you're being guaranteed and supported by the internal noise that there's a hell of a lot of support behind you. So yes, the enemy will be everybody else. So yes, okay, you can if you want to make a pitch for the fact he didn't turn it into an aggressive diet tribe, that he didn't become all defiant. Well, I think it' probably be foolish to do so because there's an appeal happening. And if that appeal goes badly for them, they're going to look even worse. So, it's probably sensible for him to be the opposite of what the ownership is being. The ownership is being adversarial. It's being aggressive. It's accusing people of being partisan. It's going after the establishment. Yeah. >> If he does that too in the football family, there's going to be some really significantly sharp knives waiting for him if this appeal goes against Manchester City. >> Right. I mean, it's hard to imagine. It's hard to know actually Emanuel, but do you think Pep would have approached it any differently in the way? >> I think he would have say and do the same >> same thing. >> Yeah, definitely. >> Were you impressed by him? >> Not really. I'm going to tell you why. I think this is pure communication. I think it's uh it's always easy to say that after a victory. Would would have said that um would he say that, you know, if he was >> lost, you know, the game yesterday? I don't think so. But I remember many manager, you know, back in days, you know, during my career using, you know, the outside noises, you know, to make something really strong into your your team. Bring this kind of mentality down. It's very simple. It's us against the world, >> right? Siege mentality. >> Where are they going to get this is the this is this is as hostile as it gets, right? Where are they going to get a more hostile environment? >> They're not going to get it at Chelsea because Chelsea have already been proven to be cheats themselves, right? And the fact they've gotten away from underneath what they what Man City have already done is unbelievable. Everyone's going out in arms. This has never happened before. Yeah, it did happened at Chelsea. They just happened to manage it. >> And so the only thing he's got to balance >> is he he doesn't want to make it any worse than it already is by appearing to be a little bit smug and a little bit overconfident, over assured. But he's got the temperature right right now. And the team are supporting him and they will continue supporting him and they will continue winning, believe me. >> Yeah. I mean, and they are winning. >> Yes, >> they are winning. >> What if they continue to win? Emanuel, can you can you see a scenario whereby >> they're like in your face everywhere they go? We don't care. We're going to continue to win. They could go on a winning run now, >> of course. >> And they could they could >> they could amass something like 36 points between now and Christmas and almost be unassailable. >> And it won't be a surprise. I've seen City winning so many games for the last few years. So, um they can be, you know, an unbeatable team sometimes. >> But would they devalue the Premier League if they do exactly that? >> Yes, definitely. I think um it's uh actually, you know, from from France, you know, um we are quite shocked about what's happening, you know, in England in the Premier League. were shocked about what happened with City about the fact that it's been well almost a year now that we know that they are they have broken the rules and um if you look at the football story you know and to make that kind of decision you know it's very easy because I've seen Juventus Marseilles Glasgow Rangers I've seen so many clubs you know being relegated you know with no emotions you know >> and it takes such a long time you know to take a decision about city >> and uh I have the feeling that it's not sport matters anymore. It's politics now because of what the investment you know they are making in England. So you we could see that some politics people are getting involved and it's funny because I don't see anything from FIFA even from UF saying that you cannot mix politics and sport. >> Well, it's not their governance and there isn't politics involved because if politics was involved they probably >> but they talk about that. >> Oh no, but they're not they're not talking about it. That's media reporting of it and that's suggestions and of course people are sucking Andy Bon and the prime minister into conversations. The one thing I want to do is I want the media to keep Man City honest, right? And when I when I say keep them mean that because they're spinning a narrative, right, that they this appeal, this league is against them. >> But the reasons why it's taken two, three years is because of Man City and their delays and their desire to make it difficult and Yeah. And the reasons why this will take longer because people are going it's got to get resolved. It's got to get resolved. Well, the people that should want it resolved more than anybody is Man City, but they're the be the ones that are arguing now about the traditions of the the appeal. The appeal is going to be fasttracked. They're arguing that this appeal shouldn't be fasttracked because under the previous rules in which they were charged for, there wasn't a fasttrack process. So, the people that will be delaying this is man spitty while spinning it out that they're being victimized, that the Premier League is being diminished as a result of challenges. >> So, they're the victim now. >> So, that's what they're playing. >> Yeah. But Simon, >> others others are watching and circling the situation. and Miguel Delaney in the Independent this morning. Some Premier League executives were already messaging others over the weekend as to whether or not the league should suspend City from the competition. Now, they can't. They've got to follow due process. They haven't been sanctioned. And the reasons why they haven't been sanctioned is because they're continuing with the liability. Man City are appealing the liability. So, it would appear that the appeal is going to contend with the liability first and the sanction afterwards. But the reasons why there's going to be a delay. What Man City are going to spin out and what people are looking at and watching is why is this what this should be finished by January the and if it's be finished by January then Man City should be sanctioned by February or not as the case may be. And there's a delay in that it will be Man City that created it. So when Man City are spinning out the narrative about, you know, we're we're going to we're going to overcome this appeal. We're innocent. We got irrefutable evidence. I want people to keep in mind that if this gets delayed, it'll be delayed for one reason and one reason only. because of Man City's lack of integrity in getting an outcome and pushing it back into the long grasp because they've just tried to site rules like >> you think that would be City's tactics. >> Yeah, they've already they've already decided because there's one thing that no one's considering. If they actually do win this appeal, which they think they're going to, >> we need to look at what's going to happen with the Premier League because you have just been told that the Premier League has no control over its own direction, that it's it's got people that are incapable of adjudicating. It's got people that are biased. That's what Man City are accusing them of, right? So if the Premier League gets overturned, it is this is a terrible situation because if the Premier League win, right, then they're going to have to deal with Man City in all the reputational damage. If they lose, >> what's going to happen then? Because the Premier League are either going to have to make an appeal against it. Yeah. >> Which is going to cost hundreds of millions or they're going to be shown to be a dead duck that cannot run its own governance that's actually partisan. All the things that Man City are accusing her of. This is not good times. >> What happens if Manchester City go on and win the Champions League? Well, UEFA UEFA got some part in this because UEFA were cowards. UEFA sanctioned them, won the appeal, won their original case, went to Cass and went, "We'll send in a skeleton crew. We're not that bothered. We've done our job." So, whatever UEFA are going to do, it's not UEFA governance anymore. This is Premier League governance. UEFA have already been outmaneuvered by Man City. It's a long way to run yet. And you French, you French get involved in it this week. You become part of the Manchester City story on Wednesday in the Champions League. >> Yep. when Manchester City played Paris Sanja. Yeah. >> So you've been talking about it's live and talk sport. You've been talking about that the very >> talking about the city case for at least two three weeks now. Every single day. Yeah. >> Yeah. So you're going to play a part in it yourselves. You come into the conversation more the French this coming week. But I'll put it out there and it's quite early to do it but I'll put it out there not only for Man City fans but for fans of other clubs. Let me know what you think. As long as Manchester City are top and they are top, is the Premier League devalued? Let me know on that. 03717234. You can speak with Simon. You can speak with World Cup winner Emanuel Pati. Is the Premier League devalued? As long as City are top, and they are top at this very moment. 03717234. There may be sometime soon be a day of reckoning for Manchester City, but this was not it. The trip to Anfield was supposed to be humbling, an afternoon of intense emotion when football would pass a brutal judgment on the miscreants. Instead, City delivered a cold assassination. That's about summing it up, is it not, Simon? We'll go to the calls in a second, but Simon, you've been saying there and you very, very strong in it. The media have a big job to do now regards this Manchester City situation and regards the appeal having been punished. What do you mean by that? To keep one city's case. You said >> Man City have every right to have an appeal. It's true process. They've been found guilty and now they're arguing against the process. They're arguing against the outcomes. They're suggesting that people are partisan, biased, and incompetent. Don't know what they're looking at. They're very adept at recreating a different narrative. They're very adept at this moment in time and making themselves the victims and positioning themselves. They're very adept at creating in people's minds that somehow they were exonerated under Cass. They were not exonerated under Cass. They were found guilty by UEFA and UEFA then didn't really represent themselves very much in a cast hearing and they were judged by different set of circumstances. In this situation, the process is very clear. We know what the appeal consists of. We know what the timelines consist of. So, everybody has a right for Man City to go through their appeal to do it quickly and expeditiously and to get it done properly with their so-called irrefutable evidence. But when you hear things like Man City are arguing about process, they're now turning around and saying that during the course of the adjudication, how long it took, which by the way in part was down to them, how long it took, the rules changed. So the rules changed to say that appeals get speeded up. So they're saying, "Hang on, when you brought the original case against us, the rules were appeals took this amount of time." >> You changed the rules during the time that it took to adjudicate our circumstances, which again was down to Man City to some extent. And we want not to have that process. This is the kind of stuff that's going to create a backdrop of longevity to this case and make it more and more challenging to the Premier League. And that's the sort of stuff that Man City need to be kept on pecking at because when they start talking their little mouthpieces like Maresca and the players come out and talk about how they're going to appeal, how they're not guilty, how they're going to do this, how they're going to be exonerated, but people need to keep reminding them of the fact that, well, this is a very speedy process. Your club won't be delaying it, will they? Your club won't be holding it up. Your club will be producing irrefutable evidence. Your club won't be trying to change the process and kick back into the long class. >> I see. So you you've had a lot to say about City. You also had a fair bit to say about Chelsea moments ago. George is a Chelsea fan. George, good morning. What do you want to say about this scenario that we are witnessing? >> Good morning guys. Great show as always. Um >> thanks George. >> You know I I don't think it it tarnishes the the Premier League with you know bad that they're top of the league. They're top of the league because they deserve to be top of the league. You know the football they're playing. I hate to admit it is sublime at the moment. You know, the way they took Liverpool apart yesterday was just, you know, that's those players. They're there on merit, you know, and at the end of the day, what's everyone talking about at the moment? Everyone's talking about the Premier League, you know. So, >> yeah, but as things stand though, George, they were found guilty of cheating >> and that they are at the top of the league. So, I'll put it to you. Do they in the process devalue the Premier League as a product? >> I don't think it does at all. No. At the end of the day, everyone's talking about the Premier League. Everyone always will do. It's the biggest and the best league in the world, and it always will be, you know. Um, and it's as simple as that. >> Is that a very honest answer from George in your view? >> Yeah, I appreciate that. But I don't disagree. I think uh when um I I agree when he when he's saying that um City are playing great football for years now, we all totally agree about that. But um we should understand as well that because of the money involved in this case they could afford you know to to get some terrible amazing players and as well amazing manager to do so. >> Yeah. >> So they are linked you know you should not look at the end you should look at the start >> but I think the caller is right because I don't I don't see any any anytime soon viewing figures dropping. I don't see anytime soon broadcasters not wanting to invest. So with that in mind, I don't see anytime soon football stadiums emptying out of football fans. So with that in mind, what we're talking about is a diminishing in the eyes of the media. A diminishing an opportunity for other leagues around the world to point their finger at the Premier League because the Premier League has always been in a position to be able to say we're the most dominant powerful league in the world. We're the best league in the world. Now you can have Javier Tebis. Now you can have the French. Now you can have the Italians push back and turn around and say yeah because you're a league built on straw. Your your your league has been found to be cheated. But and and but the irony of that is is the only thing Man City are really guilty of is not challenging the rules because Chelsea with due respect to to my friend who played for them are are the beneficiaries of timing because they did exactly what Man City did between 2003 and however long you wanted to go till the rules came in. They had a free-for-all. All Man City did was wanted