"DAYS OF THEIR LIVES!" Simon Jordan REACTS to PSG's 4-2 win against Man City amid GUILTY VERDICT!

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Simon Jordan on PSG's 4-2 win over Man City and the political fall-out from the Man City guilty verdict

The show first analyses PSG's win over Man City, the differences between Ligue 1, the Premier League and the Champions League, and the change under Luis Enrique. It then turns to the political fall-out from the guilty verdict around Man City, criticising Bev Craig's trade trip and Andy Burnham's comments, and arguing that government should stay out of football governance.

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Simon, I watched it last night. Uh, wow. I watched two games actually. I watched Las Glints uh crumble in front of Liverpool. Barcoola was great. I watched Manchester City get humbled by PSG. >> Although, yeah, the end of the second half they gave it a serious goal city, but it was done by then. Um, >> here's the thing. We know the type of opponent with all due respect to the likes of Monaco and others in League that PSG come up against. So having said that, they're not top at the moment, but they're not far off it. You know, they they they're not facing top opponents every weekend in league, whereas in the Premier League, it's one after the other after the other for Manchester City, I mean, when it comes down to it, do do City look at the way that PSG are able to dominate their own domestic league with such ease and think, damn it, there there's a blueprint to them winning the Champions League on such a a regular basis now. They've done it >> n >> twice. >> No, not really. >> Well, they beat Lemon PSG at the weekend 3-1. I've never heard of them, but it was fairly straightforward as as far as I got. >> I mean, look, I mean, we are very adept at at poking our nose up at other leagues and what they do and don't have. There are lots of decent teams in lots of these leagues now. And it's far deeper than we actually give them some of these teams, some of these leagues credit for. You look at the Spanish league, there are seven, eight, nine sides in that league that are very competitive sides that would that would hold their hands up very high in the Premier League. Um the league I don't know so much. They're having a they're having a houseian moment. They're having the days of their lives uh at PSG. It's taken a long time to get there. You know, I used to describe NASA's project as a fab egg, lovely on the outside, but not much in the middle. They've obviously come through with a complete sea change of thinking. They've gone away from the Galactic mentality that caused them lots of problems. The problems with Neymar and Mbappe and even Messi were just irritation, I imagine, for NASA because you had these big-time players that ultimately weren't producing the outcomes that he wanted. Winning the French league seems to be a caner. We know that Jose's team, Joseph Font's team, Bill stepped in once in the last decade and maybe changed the direction for a moment in time, >> but they're a very good side. They're a very good side with a very, very good coach. >> Um, and so they are having a good time. and they destroyed City in the first half, not so much in the second. The statistics, if you actually read the statistics rather than looked at the game with Man City having 24 shots, it was unbelievable. You'd think that and and and PSG having something like 14 15, you think that the the score should be the other way rounds and City really, you know, had a chance in the second half. They really did get PSG in the same way that Aston Villa did a couple of years ago. >> Sure. >> Rocking and rolling in the game. >> I get that. But I think in the Premier League, you look at league yet Monaco, they're top at the moment, they haven't been beaten in six, but they probably won't stay there. PSG will probably eclipse him. Le crumbled to to Arsenal the other night. Ren Leon Paris FC with Liam Merc. Now the the the competition isn't there. Simon not not that it's going to not test PSG enough week in week out. >> Probably not. But when the when the test comes in what people consider to be the predominant competition in terms of judging who's the best of the best. >> Yeah. >> The Champions League is a format that works for them. How many is it 15 17 games to win the Champions League, 38 games to win a Premier League, 36 games to win a La. It's a different dynamic. You can turn up in these competitions and play a different way um and have a different vantage point and have different expectations because everyone's a champion. Well, they're not actually a significant proportion of a teams. No, a reasonable proportion of the teams going in have actually won something. Yeah. Going into the Champions League, whereas league competition different animals, relegation comes into play, all manner of things. So whilst I take the argument that their leagues aren't as competitive, when it comes to this competition, a bit like Real Madrid, the argument is would Real Madrid and Barcelona come in and dominate English football. >> Yeah, who knows? >> Well, Luis Enrique, head coach of PSG, of course, he spoke postmatch, delighted, and I'm not surprised he was delighted that they were three-0 up at halftime and they got the job done in the end, four goals to two. It was pretty comprehensive really when you look at the result. and Enrique kind of opened up on what it takes to beat English clubs >> today. Maybe we could have do could have done it better in the second half, but anyway, it's a very nice record. I hope we continue playing against the English team. We are going to to play against in the next months in England and yeah, it's nice to come and see all of you. >> Oh, that was kind of him. He's very polite about it. Yeah, >> but the simple fact of the matter remains PSG dominate the French league. Manchester City do not dominate the Premier League in the way that PSG do. It's different. They're different horses for different courses. >> Yeah. Um but what we're seeking to achieve in this conversation, yeah, they dominate a lesser league. I mean, Manchester are not, you know, atypical English side. They have never been an atypical English side. The the typical traits of English football is dynamic, fast, aggressive, you know, competitive football. 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I doubt it. I doubt it. I think they'd probably do something similar to Man City but we've got a very different PSG on our hands than we've had previously. We I don't know how long it'll last. It'll last as long as his coach, I suspect. Um because he has been the lightning rod for a sea change in every aspect. He doesn't from what I can see, if what I can hear, you don't muck about with players. Don't care who they are. You know, there's a rule and there's a way of playing whether you're Dmbali or whoever you are. If you step a line and you don't do as he thinks you should do, you're out of the side irrespective of the consequences of that. And I admire that style of management because I suppose the other things in his life, >> the some of the things that have happened in his life have made it less important to make bold decisions, right? And so he he takes them with real gusto and he got his set of lines. There's his non-negotiables of how people will behave and they're a good footballing side. Man City got themselves back in the game. >> They got themselves back in the game and they had real opportunities. Yeah. So we'll we'll see. We'll see with with PSG. I mean if they can do is it unprecedented to win three Champions League in a row? Has that ever been done? >> Pretty much. Pretty much. Who did it once? Real Madrid did it once. >> Real Madrid had done it. Well, it would be nice to see them eclipse. >> Um, we saw the cap wearing Pep in the stands. >> I didn't pay much attention to >> He was I wonder what was going through his mind. Um, because he looked very subdued at halftime when it was three PSG as you might imagine. >> I suppose he should be looking happy after >> at the end of it 4-2. But to be there last night having been so hands for so long and of course we know the climate at the moment um, rumbling on behind the scenes. Wonder what went through his mind as he stood there in an executive suite. Prematch post match. >> I don't mean I know there's a lot more to emotions involved in football than his business. But I built a business that was my life for five or six years. Every aspect of my life from dawn till dusk 18 hours a day created it, conceptualized it, built it from nothing and then had thousands of people working it. And yet when I sold it, I didn't let the door hit me on the ass way out. You know, it was what it was. It was onto other things. And so when I went back into various shops around the country, whenever palace were playing away and every town that we went through, one of my shops would be in, I'd pop in the door and meet staff that I'd employed or sat on a course and spoken to or you know given a speech to a a corporate function. But I didn't feel particularly uh or conflicted or you know uh quizzical about what was going forward or how I should feel because I think he's had 10 years there. He decided to leave. No one asked him to leave. Yeah. He went out in the very rare space that very few people get to do which is people wanting more of you. >> Sure. But you've got a great habit and it's a great quality I think when you've done something you move on. Been there done it in spite of the fact the scale of what you did when you acrewed your wealth was considerable. But even at that been there done it moved on. Pep's influence at city is considerable. And I think it's going to be hard for him mentally to move on from that. Maybe, but my, you know, again, I'm not putting myself in a picture, but my influence was every member of staff had been interviewed and conducted some sort of relationship with me over the two and a half thousand people that worked there. So, I felt like I owned it. No, I felt like I created it and built it and it was my baby. So, I know what that feels like. But Pep, you know, these guys, he let go. He decided to let go. I let go for a bag of money. He let go for a different life. >> Sure. >> Uh, and he went back and he chose to go back at a time. Strange. I mean, I think if if the if the circumstances weren't what they are now with Manchester City, I doubt he'd have been in the building. I think he'd have been off, you know, doing other things >> doing other things. But because he wanted to show a false uh, you know, you know, a sense of loyalty or or camaraderie towards the ex uh employers that he worked for, he was there. >> Yeah. I wonder if I wonder if he's hurt by all the publicity that surrounds the club. >> Well, he's probably right about something coming his way. >> All right. Well, very possibly. I wonder what's coming Andy Burnham's way. Prime Minister uh his successor as Manchester Mayor Bev Craig reportedly took a Manchester City representative uh to Delhi and Mumbai. It was a trip organized by business secretary Jonathan Reynolds. Um but this trip took place after the guilty verdict just a few days ago. What's the implication of that? We'll look at that next. It was reported yesterday that Prime Minister Andy Bernham had two hospitality dinners with Manchester City Football Club chairman Caldun Al-Mabarak while he was major of Greater Manchester. It was back in 2017 2018. But more recently, in the last few days, Burnham's successor as Manchester Mayor Bev Craig took a representative from the club to Delhi and Mumbai on a trip organized by business secretary Jonathan Reynolds where she and other northern mayors have been promoted promoting British trade and tourism. What kind of message does that send, do you think, at this particular time while city's appeal is ongoing? I don't think it's a very clever one. Um, you know, there'll be obviously there's a a lot of noise being made out of Burnham's silly comments that he made where he aligned himself with Man City and talked about the loss of them would be a sad thing and shouldn't have said it because he shouldn't have been anywhere near the conversation and then people are now making political capital out of it. Sending people will argue that, you know, Man City and the mayor of Manchester, you know, of course, are going to have relationships. Of course, they're going to have relationships. this philanthropic group as philanthropic as you thought they were because they were doing nice little sweetheart deal deals to make lots and lots of money out of property regeneration we're all about Manchester stuff that they led you to believe which is part and parcel of how the images and how they want you to think of them but the interesting thing about this is is that I saw some political tap dancing around this yesterday in a couple of shows suggesting that this is a major reason you know the the Premier League is a major British success and it should be taken around the world and that's the reasons why they're Well, then take someone from the Premier League. Don't take someone from a from a football club that at this moment in time is systematically potentially damaging the national game. >> Yeah. >> And creating uh a real issue in the sport and the business of the sport. >> As you say, take someone from the Premier League. >> Now, what they'll turn around and say perhaps is, well, you know, ultimately we, you know, we're not in this particular conversation. We are this is a business conversation. Well, it's a business of sport. They're in the business of sport. And if you want to take an organization that's currently at this moment in time potentially at war with the establishment potentially denigrating the national game that means so much to people and the Premier League that you're saying is a major export and also by the way if you're trying to cozy up to them to make sure that you don't have a problem with them. These are also the same sort of people that are briefing into the British press that if they find themselves in an adverse situation surrounding British football they'll start to withdraw their investment into the UK in terms of the wind farms their investment into BT. Are these the sort of situations where we find ourselves as a nation genulecting on every single business deal deal we do operating operating a policy of appeasement? Of course it's a bad look. Of course it's bad decisions. Of course it's cronyism. Of course it's sickopantic. It's nonsense. >> It's cronyism, is it? >> Well, of course it is. >> It's too tight. It's too coy. >> We of course it is. One hand washes the other in business. We all know that. And I'm not suggesting that Andy Burnham I mean I'd be more worried if Andy Burnham was cozing up to us given the fact he was an Everton fan once upon a time. Did he? Didn't he? I don't know. Uh maybe that'll come up in a different conversation. But in this situation surrounding the the the man city, of course they're going to interact. He was the mayor of Manchester, people are going to have, you know, relationships with big hitters and big dynamics inside their cities. But to now suggest, I mean, these politicians don't read rooms to bring these people to a trade situation as a representative of one of the major exports while these people are at war. Yeah. with this uh particular major export >> not a good not a good idea >> and at the same time if they put the argument well then it's better to keep your enemies closer or what you mean the same people that are briefing in that they are threatening to withdraw investment into the UK if they don't have their way in football well exactly Simon and it comes work is it >> it comes at the same time as Lisa Nande MP um DCMS secretary hang on in conversation with Alex Krook was it pains to point out that the the government is keeping the city situation at arms length I want to be crystal clear that whilst we are really grateful to investors who come from all over the world to invest in our clubs and help to ensure their viability and their success, they are custodians both of their clubs and of the game and they have a responsibility to play by the rules and uphold the rules. So we will not um as a government be involved in any decision- making around whether these allegations are upheld. is for foot football to determine that because the integrity of the game is at stake. Um once that that has been um determined obviously there is a role for government to manage any fallout from that but the integrity of the game is not is not in question. It is not um up for grabs. Um I've been very clear since I became culture secretary that there people don't want to see politics in their game. They want the joy of the game, the love of the game, the excitement of the game, and they want to make sure that fans are at the heart of that process. Now, that is the right and proper role of government is to protect that integrity and to put the fans back at the heart of football where they belong. That's what we've done with the football government's act and the independent regulator. And it's now for football to step up and make a determination in this case and really meet this moment. >> I don't think there's anything controversial in what she said there. I think it's fair enough, is probably right. I don't see what the government's role will be post the situation regarding Manchester City. I don't see I don't think they have any role whatsoever. Uh and to suggest that they do post the what what what the culture secretary was saying there was that once the situation has been resolved there'll be a role for government despite saying there isn't a role for government in sport they've got an independent football regulator. If they're suggesting that there's any influence into independent football regul regulator, didn't we hear Kogan the other day, Tony Manner, saying if they come anywhere near me, yeah, >> I'll be out the door quicker than a quick thing from Quickland. >> I mean, but Nandi is quite right though to say we we will not be involved. We are not involved in this process. We take a step back and football will let it run its course. >> Well, then maybe she should have briefed in our prime minister to keep his trap shut from the outset. >> What does it make Burnham look like? >> Fool. I mean, he's had to go back for me. He's had to recant it. He's had to turn around and say because he asked the question because he what the first response you get from somebody is normally the truest, right? So his first response was an unconssidered, unthought through um uh out reaction which will it'll be sad to lose Man City owners. Right. Just let's pair that back. They've just been found guilty of what other people would say is the biggest scandal in British football and our most successful export. And you're saying because you had a few lunches with them and a commercial relationship with them back in the day, it would be sad to lose them. How stupid are you? He knows that was stupid and he's now pairing it back and rowing back from what he said like he does on regular things. And here we are now with somebody having the opportunity to consider what they're saying in Lisa and saying a consider response yet still inferring that post the reaction it's somehow the government's responsibility to coordinate sport. No, it's the government's responsibility to get out of the way and